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Journalist Anand Giridharadas On The Lost Art Of Empathy, Compassion, & Understanding Each Other

October 5, 2026

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In May 2023, a Black, mentally ill, homeless man named Jordan Neely boarded a New York City subway car. Within thirty seconds, a white former Marine named Daniel Penny put him in a chokehold. The train reached the next stop; most passengers got off. Penny held the chokehold for another five minutes, killing Neely. The incident became an immediate American Rorschach test—hero or vigilante?—reduced to clickbait on both sides. Journalist Anand Giridharadas spent three years reporting on what actually happened, and the result is Man in the Mirror, a book that uses this single, compressed tragedy to examine every major fracture in American life: mental health, homelessness, race, power, and the lost art of seeing other people as fully human.

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  • 2 (00:00) **The Jordan Neely Case as American Rorschach Test** - Anand Giridharadas introduces the fatal 2023 subway chokehold that became an instant national flashpoint
  • 3 (02:23) **From Pundit Back to Street Reporter** - A close friend's intervention jolted Giridharadas out of advocacy journalism and back into immersive reporting
  • 4 (08:48) **The Trump Era's Assault on Curiosity** - How the pressure to take righteous stands atrophied Giridharadas's thinking muscles
  • 5 (21:57) **The Lost Civic Art of Mental Leaping** - Understanding across difference as the antidote to siloed tribalism
  • 6 (28:56) **Choco's Story: One Hour of an NYPD Sweep** - A vivid on-the-ground account of how homelessness policy actually plays out
  • 7 (36:40) **System Failure vs. Individual Villainy** - Understanding the upstream causes without losing hope

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Show Notes

Anand Giridharadas is a New York Times bestselling author whose new book is Man in the Mirror.

This conversation explores the death of Jordan Neely on a New York subway, the story at the center of the book. We discuss Anand's return from punditry to reporting, how power actually operates, what the Epstein emails reveal about elite relationships, the Aspen consensus, who gets to belong in America and the case for radical humanization.

Along the way, I share how the program of recovery taught me to seek understanding and lead with curiosity.

Anand's book is an act of service. I hope this conversation is, too. Enjoy!


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