Shawn Ryan: There's A Battle For Your Soul, It's Happening Right Now

October 1, 2026

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Shawn Ryan, former Navy SEAL, CIA contractor, and now one of the most listened-to podcasters in the world, tells Steven Bartlett that he is in the middle of a spiritual battle for his soul. The trigger was a psychedelic experience three months ago that he describes as a visit to hell—a state of total emptiness, fear, and abandonment that felt more real than anything in his waking life. Since then, he has undergone multiple exorcisms, experienced objects falling off walls during prayer, had nightmares designed to destroy his faith, and watched advertisers drop him for talking openly about Christianity. Ryan’s story is not a tidy conversion narrative. It is a raw, ongoing report from someone who says he can no longer pretend to be on the fence.

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1 Shawn Ryan: There's A Battle For Your Soul, It's Happening Right Now
2 (01:00) **Opening: "I know I visited hell"** - Shawn Ryan claims he experienced hell during a psychedelic journey, setting up the episode's central spiritual conflict
3 (03:24) **Military background and the SEAL experience** - Shawn describes his path from Navy SEAL to CIA contractor
4 (10:44) **How podcasters get "captured" by political power** - Shawn explains the mechanism by which influencers lose their independence
5 (13:29) **Planted guests and intelligence operations in podcasting** - Shawn believes guests are being inserted into the podcast circuit to spread specific narratives
6 (17:55) **Shawn's political disillusionment** - He endorsed Trump but has since changed his opinion
7 (22:05) **America's declining superpower status** - Shawn argues the US is destroying alliances and may lose its position

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Guests on this episode

Shawn Ryan Steven Bartlett

Show Notes

What happens when the relentless pursuit of adrenaline leads to losing your soul in the process? Shawn Ryan reveals the hidden psychological toll of ambition, the dark side of psychedelics, and the ultimate price of true alignment.

Shawn Ryan is a former U.S. Navy SEAL, CIA contractor, and the creator of The Shawn Ryan Show, one of the most influential and widely watched independent podcasts. After transitioning from elite military service and dangerous covert operations into media, he has built an expansive platform known for raw unfiltered conversations.

In this episode, he explains:
■ The Adrenaline Trap: How former elite operators often suffer from severe post-service depression because normal civilian life cannot replicate the neurological highs of combat.
■ The Psychedelic Nightmare: Why an intensive ibogaine treatment designed to optimize his mental state instead opened a terrifying portal to the spiritual realm and severe supernatural oppression.
■ The Cost of Alignment: Genuine personal transformation demands going through a shedding phase, in which you consciously step away from profitable ad deals, social networks, and short term incentives to stay true to your values.
■ The Illusion of the Herd: Authentic, lasting achievement relies entirely on nurturing a unique voice anchored in personal belief, while imitating results in creative paralysis.
■ The Ultimate Priority: Chasing ambition eventually demands sacrificing family time, demonstrating that no amount of business success can make up for absence in your children's lives.

Chapters

00:00:00 Intro
00:02:26 What Made Shawn Ryan?
00:03:38 What Separates a Navy SEAL From the Rest of the Military
00:06:09 What Really Happened During Operation Red Wings
00:08:44 How Becoming a Navy SEAL Changed Him
00:09:54 Are Podcasters Being Compromised by Planted Guests?
00:18:25 Did He Endorse Trump?
00:20:19 Has His Opinion on Trump Changed?
00:21:20 How the Military Feels About Deployment to Iran
00:22:30 Would America Be Better Off If Democrats Had Won?
00:29:19 Why the 2028 Election Matters to Him
00:32:48 Why He Deletes Podcast Episodes
00:37:20 Ads
00:39:47 Why He Moved to Colombia After Contracting
00:39:58 Did He Get Involved With Drug Networks in Colombia?
00:42:04 What Happened With the Police in Colombia?
00:46:49 Was Colombia Enough to Make Him Get