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Why Brunson Is Top 50 All Time, a Finals Mega-Mailbag, and NBA Fake Trade Season With Joe House

June 15, 2026

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Jalen Brunson just did something that only a handful of small guards in NBA history have ever done: he was the best player on a championship team. For Bill Simmons and his longtime friend Joe House, that fact alone forces a complete re-evaluation of where Brunson belongs in the league’s all-time hierarchy. The conversation zooms out from Brunson to examine the broader implications of the Knicks’ title—what it means for the Spurs’ future, which stars might be on the move in a suddenly volatile trade market, and whether the old rules about needing a top-five player to win still hold.

The Brunson Pyramid Case

Simmons argues that Brunson’s playoff run—averaging 33 points in the Finals while playing nearly 40 minutes a night—elevates him into the top 50 players of all time, and possibly as high as the low 40s. The key mechanism here is the "peak over longevity" principle that has always governed Simmons’s basketball pyramid. He values a player who can carry a team to a title over one who accumulates regular-season accolades without the ring. “Would you rather have 15 years of somebody who was really, really good and made a bunch of All-NBA teams but couldn’t win a title if he was your best guy?” Simmons asks. “Or would you rather have a shorter window with somebody whose peak you could win a title with?”

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (03:48) **Show Open & NBA Draft Mayhem** - Bill and House run through a wild post-Finals sports weekend: Knicks win, Giannis trade rumors, draft chaos, and Darren Peterson’s workout ultimatum.
  • 2 (26:23) **Jalen Brunson’s Pyramid Placement** - Bill argues Brunson is now a top-50 all-time player after dragging the Knicks to a title, comparing his run to Dirk in 2011 and Wade in 2006.
  • 3 (36:47) **Comparing Brunson to All-Time Guards** - Bill places Brunson at #41 in his pyramid, ahead of Nash, Kidd, Sam Jones, Harden, Gervin, and Luka.
  • 4 (57:33) **Mailbag: Jalen Name Hierarchy** - Matt from NY argues Brunson has earned the sole “Jalen” moniker; Bill and House agree, demoting Jalen Brown to “JB” and Jalen Williams to “JDubb.”
  • 5 (59:09) **Mailbag: Dallas’s Twin Disasters** - Joel asks if letting Brunson walk is a worse decision than trading Luka. Bill says no, but calls the Brunson non-offer “colossal mismanagement.”
  • 6 (61:23) **Mailbag: Which Stars Can’t Win as the Best Player?** - Reed asks Bill to name players he’d reconsider after Brunson’s title run.
  • 7 (66:25) **Mailbag: Biggest Regret for Not Going to the Knicks** - Jason asks which star most regrets passing on the Knicks: LeBron or KD.

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Show Notes

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons and Joe House talk about their favorite early-offseason NBA story lines, including draft changes and trade moves. Then, they discuss Jalen Brunson’s greatness in the NBA Finals before comparing him to some other all-time greats. Finally, Bill and Joe answer some mailbag questions from the listeners.


(0:00) Intro

(3:15) Favorite offseason NBA story lines

(25:50) Is Jalen Brunson a top-50 all-time player?

(54:21) Mailbag


Host: Bill Simmons

Guest: Joe House

Producers: Chia Hao Tat and Eduardo Ocampo


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