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YC Demo Day, Spoon = Bent (Again), iPhone Duo Reactions | Garry Tan, Om Buddhdev, Karen Serfaty, Antonio Li, Edward Ge, Alfredo Gonzalez

September 10, 2026

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The TBPN crew opens with an oddball prediction: 105 days until Christmas, and Ramp is making a Broadway musical about its own corporate card product, starring Billy Zane. The teaser is already out. From there, the episode scatters across a packed news landscape — YC Demo Day is the spine, but the hosts also cover the Bending Spoon acquisition of Miro, iPhone Duo reactions, an AI safety whistleblower tour, and a tennis match that ended at 3:30 a.m. The result is a wide-ranging update on what is happening in startups, Big Tech, and the culture around both.

YC Demo Day: Hard Tech Is Back

Garry Tan, Y Combinator’s CEO, joins the show to explain what he is seeing in the current batch. About 25% of the 200 presenting companies are hard tech — up 40x from the low point a few years ago. Tan’s explanation is blunt: "Intelligence is on tap now. Instead of just doing bits, it's time to do atoms." He points to companies like Frontier, which makes biochips using neuronal cells, as evidence that AI is pulling hardware forward. The dynamic has shifted because founders no longer need a $100 million raise to hire the one expert in a niche field. They can prototype with GPT-6 or Astra, iterate fast, and get a demo that is 10x better than what was possible without that expert.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:12) **Show Open & AI Safety Discourse** - The hosts open with banter about Ramp's Broadway play and countdown to Christmas, then pivot to the AI safety debate sparked by Jacob Coxon's media tour and Josh Box's extinction bet offer.
  • 2 (12:22) **Bending Spoons Acquires Miro at 89% Discount** - Bending Spoons buys Miro for a reported $1.7B, an 89% drop from its $17.5B peak valuation, sparking analysis of the deal's implications.
  • 3 (16:18) **Tailwind Acquired by Shopify** - Tailwind, an AI software development accelerator that previously received community grants, finds a home at Shopify.
  • 4 (17:45) **iPhone Duo Reactions and Crease Debate** - The hosts react to Apple's foldable iPhone announcement, dismissing crease concerns while questioning the device's aspect ratio and market positioning.
  • 5 (24:16) **Garry Tan on YC Demo Day & Hard Tech Boom** - YC CEO Garry Tan joins to discuss the current batch, with 25% hard tech companies (up 40x from the low point) and the AI-driven shift from bits to atoms.
  • 6 (33:00) **Software Disruption and Neoclouds** - Tan predicts AI-native startups with 20 people will replace public SaaS companies with thousands of engineers, and neoclouds like Wafer and SeeForm are surging.
  • 7 (38:40) **What YC Startups Should Avoid** - Tan advises against building "body shop" data companies with thousands of employees and instead points to a new wave of data companies doing $10M+ annually with just 20-50 people using agentic systems.

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Guests on this episode

Garry Tan

Show Notes

  • (01:47) - The Future of AI
  • (10:57) - AI Safety Takes Over the Timeline
  • (12:48) - Spoon = Bent (Again)
  • (17:54) - iPhone Duo Reactions
  • (24:17) - Garry Tan discusses Y Combinator’s growing focus on hard tech and how AI enables small teams to build ambitious hardware, software, defense, and gaming companies with fewer resources. The Y Combinator CEO predicts AI-native startups will outcompete established firms through agentic workflows while emphasizing practical cybersecurity solutions over speculative AI-safety debates.
  • (43:56) - Om Buddhdev, co-founder and CEO of Olam Labs, discusses building realistic reinforcement-learning environments and training data to evaluate AI behaviors such as deception, collaboration, and negotiation. He highlights data and compute as key bottlenecks to AI progress, explains Olam Labs’ benchmark-driven business model, and expresses cautious optimism amid growing AI safety concerns.
  • (52:55) - Karen Serfaty discusses Agent Card, a payments platform that enables AI agents to use consumers’ existing credit cards safely. He explains how its Vault and purchase API help personal-assistant companies securely store cards, navigate merchant websites, and complete online purchases despite anti-bot barriers.
  • (01:00:16) - Antonio Li discusses Nori Robots’ affordable, San Francisco-built humanoid robot, designed for developers and capable of handling most household tasks through LLM-powered controls. He highlights its $1,688 price, simple claw-based design, potential applications in homes and service industries, and plans to scale production to 400 robots per month.
  • (01:09:02) - Edward Ge discusses founding Exosat, a Singapore-based company developing sovereign satellite infrastructure as an alternative to U.S. and Chinese networks. He outlines plans for an 11,000-satellite constellation, globally flexible supply chains and launch providers, and serving countries seeking greater technological independence.
  • (01:15:15) - Alfredo Gonzalez discusses Omanta, an AI-powered personal research lab that helps patients and clinicians analyze genomic data, understand tumor biology, and identify potentially overlooked therapies. He explains that inadequate healthcare data infrastructure is a major barrier to AI progress and shares that Omanta has reached $319,000 in monthly recurring revenue while serving more than 150 patients.
  • (01:20:20) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions


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