AI to AE's: Grit, Glean, and Kleiner Perkins' next Enterprise AI hit — Joubin Mirzadegan, Roadrunner
December 12, 2025
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5 min read🎙️ The Voices & The Context
- The Format: This episode is a dynamic and reflective host discussion, featuring insights from a successful entrepreneur about their journey in the tech and podcasting space, intertwined with intriguing stories about industry insights and personal experiences.
- The Key Players:
- Host: The host engages with the guest in a conversational style, allowing for a thorough exploration of themes around entrepreneurship, podcasting, and tech industry challenges.
- Guest: The guest is an entrepreneur with a rich background in sales and technology, currently working on an innovative startup, Roadrunner. They bring a wealth of experience from previous roles, including product development and venture capital.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:00) **🎙️ Introduction: [Guest Name]**
- 2 (00:14) **Sales Software Frustrations**
- 3 (01:07) **Lightbulb Moment**
- 4 (01:23) **Discussion on the Zuck Interview**
- 5 (02:08) **Impact of Priscilla Chan**
- 6 (02:57) **Transitioning from CRO to Podcasting**
- 7 (04:11) **Podcast Format Changes**
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Show Notes
Glean started as a Kleiner Perkins incubation and is now a $7B, $200m ARR Enterprise AI leader. Now KP has tapped its own podcaster to lead it’s next big swing.
From building go-to-market the hard way in startups (and scaling Palo Alto Networks’ public cloud business) to joining Kleiner Perkins to help technical founders turn product edge into repeatable revenue, Joubin Mirzadegan has spent the last decade obsessing over one thing: distribution and how ideas actually spread, sell, and compound. That obsession took him from launching the CRO-only podcast Grit (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRiWZFltuYPF8A6UGm74K2q29UwU-Kk9k) as a hiring wedge, to working alongside breakout companies like Glean and Windsurf, to now incubating Roadrunner which is an AI-native rethink of CPQ and quoting workflows as pricing models collapse from “seats” into consumption, bundles, renewals, and SKU sprawl.
We sat down with Joubin to dig into the real mechanics of making conversations feel human (rolling early, never sending questions, temperature + lighting hacks), what Windsurf got right about “Google-class product and Salesforce-class distribution,” how to hire early sales leaders without getting fooled by shiny logos, why CPQ is quietly breaking the back of modern revenue teams, and his thesis for his new company and KP incubation Roadrunner (https://www.roadrunner.ai/): rebuild the data model from the ground up, co-develop with the hairiest design partners, and eventually use LLMs to recommend deal structures the way the best reps do without the Slack-channel chaos of deal desk.
We discuss:
How to make guests instantly comfortable: rolling early, no “are you ready?”, temperature, lighting, and room dynamics
Why Joubin refuses to send questions in advance (and when you might have to anyway)
The origin of the CRO-only podcast: using media as a hiring wedge and relationship engine
The “commit to 100 episodes” mindset: why most shows die before they find their voice
Founder vs exec interviews: why CEOs can speak more freely (and what it unlocks in conversation)
What Glean taught him about enterprise AI: permissions, trust, and overcoming “category is dead” skepticism
Design partners as the real unlock: why early believers matter and how co-development actually works
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