How Robinhood is using the SEC's New Innovation Exemption | Johann Kerbrat

September 21, 2026

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Here is a summary of the conversation between David Hoffman and Johann Kerbrat, Head of Crypto at Robinhood, covering the state of Robinhood Chain, the SEC’s new innovation exemption, and the mechanics of tokenized assets.

The episode was recorded on the same day the SEC published its "innovation exemption" for tokenized securities, just after the failure of the Clarity Act. Kerbrat expressed disappointment about the stalled federal legislation, noting that a consistent national framework is necessary for long-term institutional confidence. However, he was "super excited" about the exemption, interpreting it as a signal that tokenization is now ready for the US market. For Robinhood, this creates a pathway to bring products onshore that were previously built for overseas markets, allowing the company to merge traditional and crypto offerings.

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1 Timestamped Navigation Outline
2 (00:03) **Opening & Context** - Johann Kerbrat joins to discuss Robinhood's position at the intersection of crypto and TradFi, with the SEC's new innovation exemption just announced
3 (01:08) **Defining the Innovation Exemption** - Johann explains what the SEC's new exemption means and how it differs from Robinhood's existing tokenized stock product
4 (03:58) **Minting Mechanics & Backing** - Johann clarifies that every stock token mint is backed 1:1 by purchasing the actual stock
5 (05:19) **TradFi CEO Reactions** - The mixed public and private responses from corporate CEOs to Robinhood's tokenized stock product
6 (06:50) **Key Metrics & Value Proposition** - The data showing why tokenization matters: 24/7 trading and instant settlement
7 (08:07) **Voting Rights & In-Kind Redemption Upgrade** - Vlad tweeted that stock tokens will get voting rights and in-kind redemption; Johann explains the roadmap

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Show Notes

Robinhood is trying to erase the line between crypto markets and traditional finance. David sits down with Johann from Robinhood to unpack the rise of tokenized stocks, why so much activity is already happening outside normal trading hours, and what changes when equities become programmable, composable and available across DeFi.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 Bringing Tokenization to the U.S.
2:17 How Robinhood Stock Tokens Actually Work
5:19 TradFi Pushback and Demand for Tokenized Stocks
7:59 Voting Rights, Redemption and DeFi Utility
10:29 What Happens When Stocks Trade on Weekends
13:42 Will Blockchain Become the Primary Market?
18:46 Robinhood Chain’s Early Traction
21:22 Beyond Stocks: Real Estate, Gold and More
24:22 How Robinhood Chooses What to Build
26:36 What U.S. Users Still Can’t Access
29:49 Combining Tokenized Stocks With Perps
32:51 Why Robinhood Chose Ethereum
35:32 AI Agents and the Next Robinhood Products

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RESOURCES

Johann Kerbrat
https://x.com/JohannKerbrat

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