Episode 235: Who tf is Jevon?

July 10, 2026

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5 min read

Jevon’s paradox—the idea that making something cheaper and more efficient can increase, not decrease, demand for it—is the organizing idea behind this conversation. Brent Jensen, a Microsoft engineer who recently switched teams, uses it to argue that AI’s ability to generate code cheaply will not eliminate software jobs but will instead create more work for builders, because the long tail of problems worth solving with software just got a lot shorter.

The episode opens with Brent describing his move from a team where he was the “golden child” who was then told to stop executing, to a team that has embraced him. That contrast sets up his broader point: organizations that respond to AI disruption by adding fear and encouraging self-preservation will fail; those that band together and adapt will survive. “If a lion eats any of us, it’s eaten all of us,” he says. The real moat, he argues, is customer trust—not enterprise contracts, not proprietary code, not any technical advantage that can be replicated overnight.

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What you'll learn

1 (00:05) **Welcome & Guest Introduction** - Co-host Alan welcomes back Brent Jensen as a special guest host for the episode.
2 (02:49) **Catching Up: Team Changes & Corporate Culture** - Brent shares his recent team transition at Microsoft, contrasting old and new team dynamics.
3 (09:32) **Hyper-Scaler Competition & Anthropic's Focus** - Brent contrasts the big cloud providers' strategies with Anthropic's laser-focused mission on task completion.
4 (11:44) **Three Key Principles for the AI Era** - Brent outlines three assumptions he lives by, even if not yet fully true, to stay ahead of the curve.
5 (15:03) **Jevon's Paradox Explained** - Brent defines the paradox and connects it to the automation of code production.
6 (19:28) **Applying Jevon's Paradox to Code** - The core argument: cheaper code creation unlocks a vast, previously uneconomical long tail of software opportunities.
7 (22:52) **The Layoff Debate: Overhiring vs. AI Replacement** - Alan and Brent debate whether current tech layoffs are truly driven by AI or by pandemic-era overhiring.

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Show Notes

In this episode, Alan and Brent explore the rapid evolution of AI, the implications of Jaevon's paradox, and how organizations can adapt to the changing technological landscape. They discuss the future roles of developers, the importance of critical thinking in education, and the ongoing shifts in the software industry.