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Episode 227: Elisabeth Hendrickson

February 20, 2026

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🎙️ The Voices & The Context

  • The Format: A casual, free-flowing conversation between two old friends and industry peers. It feels like catching up over coffee, with tangents, laughter, and deep dives into shared professional history.
  • The Key Players:
    • Host (Alan): A seasoned tech leader who started in quality and moved into infrastructure and leadership. He’s the enthusiastic fanboy, asking the questions and connecting their parallel career journeys.
    • Guest (Elizabeth Hendrickson): A legendary figure in software testing and agile, author of Explore It!, and now co-author of the upcoming Signals and Levers. She’s a systems-thinking evangelist with a sharp, witty, and deeply reflective perspective.
  • The Vibe: Fun, insightful, and intellectually stimulating. The conversation is laced with humor (like “time is a drunk slinky”) and a shared sense of validation as they realize they’ve independently arrived at the same radical conclusions about quality.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:00) **🎙️ Introduction: Elizabeth Hendrickson**
  • 2 (03:15) **Elizabeth's Early Career Path**
  • 3 (05:20) **Parallel Journeys: From Testing to Leadership**
  • 4 (07:08) **The "Better Testing, Worse Quality" Revelation**
  • 5 (14:59) **Dissolving the QA Team at Unity**
  • 6 (17:12) **Post-Director Career: Consulting and Agile Immersion**
  • 7 (21:10) **Joining Pivotal Labs**

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Show Notes

In this engaging interview, Elisabeth Hendrickson shares her journey through the tech industry, her insights on systems thinking, and the principles behind her upcoming book 'Signals and Levers.' Discover how her experiences shape modern approaches to quality, leadership, and software delivery.


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