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5 min readThe U.S. electricity grid faces a delivery bottleneck amid rising demand from data centers, electrification, and reindustrialization, despite decades of efficiency gains keeping net consumption flat. In this a16z podcast, A16Z general partner Aaron Price-Wright speaks with Doug Bernauer, founder and CEO of Radiant, and Drew Baglino, founder and CEO of Heron Energy. Both draw from experience at Elon Musk's companies to address generation and distribution through factory-built nuclear microreactors and solid-state transformers, emphasizing modularity and edge deployment.
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Bernauer joined SpaceX in 2007, working on early Falcon launches, Grasshopper (first rocket with legs), and Mars colony designs, where solar fell short for megawatt-scale power, prompting a shift to nuclear. This led to Radiant in 2019, targeting mass-producible, trailer-sized 1-megawatt reactors. Baglino, at Tesla since 2006 after studying electrification for New Zealand's Kyoto goals, contributed to Master Plan Part 3, confirming the need for 3-5x grid growth. He founded Heron to innovate on the "grid side of the wire," where progress has stalled, using power electronics scaled from EVs and renewables.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:01) **Grid Breakdown and Delivery Bottleneck** - Intro highlights US grid issues with flat demand despite growth, shifting to data centers and industrialization
- 2 (01:14) **Historical Context and Demand Surge** - Edison's model outdated; data centers, EVs, reshoring drive first demand rise in decades
- 3 (02:11) **Founders' Backstories and Elon Connections** - Doug (SpaceX) and Drew (Tesla) share Hyperloop/Boring Co. collaborations
- 4 (04:28) **Radiant Origins: Doug's Journey** - From SpaceX Mars fuel challenges to nuclear microreactors after Elon's nudge
- 5 (06:32) **Heron Origins: Drew's Path** - Tesla Master Plan Part 3 convinces on grid scale-up needs; targets power electronics innovation
- 6 (08:58) **Structural Demand Shift** - Efficiency era ends; AI, compute, industrial loads outpace gains
- 7 (11:20) **A16Z Energy Thesis** - AI forces resilient, decentralized, software-defined grids with microgrids
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Show Notes
a16z general partners Erin Price-Wright and Erik Torenberg speak with Doug Bernauer, founder and CEO of Radiant, and Drew Baglino, founder and CEO of Heron, about rebuilding American energy infrastructure. They discuss portable micro nuclear reactors, solid state power electronics, why delivery rather than generation is the real bottleneck, the case for modular manufacturing, and whether data centers are actually good for the grid.
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