Trump Says He Talked to Warsh. What Does That Mean for Fed Independence?
September 17, 2026
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5 min read“I talked to Kevin, and I said you might as well vote with the board because it's not gonna matter. The board is very hostile.” That was President Trump’s account of a conversation with Federal Reserve Chair Kevin Warsh on the day of the Fed’s latest rate decision. The comment, made after the central bank raised interest rates, immediately reignited questions about whether the Fed can maintain its political independence. But as WSJ Washington Bureau Chief Damian Paletta explained, only one side of that conversation has been confirmed, and the implications for the central bank’s credibility are far from settled.
Trump, Warsh, and the Fed’s Slippery Slope
The Fed’s rate hike itself was widely expected, but the political fallout has become the dominant story. During his post-decision press conference, Warsh repeatedly declined to discuss any conversations with the president, telling reporters he had “nothing for you on discussions with Trump.” He instead stressed the Fed’s institutional independence, saying, “Part of the independence of the Federal Reserve is we stay in our lane. Independence is a two-way street. We let people that do trade policy and fiscal policy stay in their lane too.”
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- 1 (00:26) **Trump Says He Talked to Fed Chair Warsh** - President Trump claims he spoke with Fed Chair Kevin Warsh about the rate decision, raising questions about central bank independence.
- 2 (04:10) **Market Reaction: Stocks Rebound, Yields Fall** - Investors shake off yesterday's rate hike jitters, with the Nasdaq rising 1.7% and the 10-year Treasury yield falling below 5%.
- 3 (04:43) **Congress Goes Home Early Amid Productivity Criticism** - House Speaker Mike Johnson sends lawmakers home for the campaign trail despite a backlog of legislation, including a gas tax suspension and AI bills.
- 4 (07:06) **King Charles Urges AI Safety Action** - The UK's King Charles hosts executives from Nvidia, Anthropic, and OpenAI in Scotland, calling for guidelines before AI spirals "out of control."
- 5 (08:25) **Business Owners Face a Breaking Point on Prices** - Small business owners, long hesitant to raise prices, are now starting to pass on higher energy and resin costs to consumers to protect profit margins.
- 6 (10:49) **MasterCard Lets AI Bots Do Your Shopping** - MasterCard rolls out a new "agentic commerce" tool that gives AI bots a virtual credit card to make purchases without seeking permission for each transaction.
- 7 (13:07) **GM to Supply Parts for Lockheed Martin Patriot Missiles** - General Motors is expanding its military business by supplying missile housing components to Lockheed Martin to help triple Patriot missile production by 2030.
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P.M. Edition for Sept. 17. Yesterday’s interest rate increase from the Fed seemed to some like an assertion of the central bank’s independence. But afterward President Trump revealed that he and Warsh had a conversation before the decision was announced. WSJ Washington bureau chief Damian Paletta discusses what we know and what this could mean for the future of the Fed. Plus, House Speaker Mike Johnson sent lawmakers home early this week ahead of the November election, despite criticism that Congress isn’t doing its job. We hear from Journal reporter Maya Davis about what the data show about how much Congress is getting done. And Mastercard becomes the latest credit card company to roll out the option for AI bots to do your everyday shopping. But, as reporter Ben Glickman notes, many consumers aren’t yet ready to hand over their cards to a bot. Alex Ossola hosts.
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