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The Tension and Turnover at Bessent’s Treasury Department

October 7, 2026

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The Tension and Turnover at Bessent’s Treasury Department

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has been handed what one reporter calls "a massive remit that I don't think any modern-day Treasury Secretary has ever had." His boss, President Trump, expects him to solve stubborn problems in the economy—rising borrowing costs, high gas prices—while also serving as a lead voice on AI policy, trade talks with China, and, oh, ending the war in Iran with a sweeping sanctions plan. Now, according to a Wall Street Journal investigation based on interviews with more than 30 current and former officials, the pressure is showing. Bessent has reportedly engaged in yelling matches with his own staff and clashed with Elon Musk during Musk's tenure leading the Department of Government Efficiency. One incident involved Under Secretary of Terrorism and Finance John Hurley, whom Bessent allegedly screamed at in January over a Minnesota fraud probe; Hurley has since left his role.

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  • 1 (00:37) **Pressure Mounts on Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent** - The Trump administration's Treasury Secretary faces an unusually broad and demanding portfolio, with rising tensions reported within his department.
  • 2 (00:44) **Trump Administration Investigates Wells Fargo Over Fair Lending** - An exclusive report details a probe into the bank's program to increase Black homeownership.
  • 3 (01:38) **Nobel Prize in Chemistry Awarded for Drug Development Breakthroughs** - Henri Kagan and Kenzo Sui win for work on homochirality, essential for synthesizing small molecules in pharmaceuticals.
  • 4 (02:05) **Measles Outbreak in Pennsylvania Becomes Largest Since 1991** - Over 1,000 confirmed cases and five deaths have been reported since April.
  • 5 (02:39) **Bond Market Turbulence Hits Multi-Decade Highs Before Retreating** - Treasury yields spike but cool after a strong 10-year auction, with the 10-year yield closing at nearly 5.28%.
  • 6 (03:55) **Stock Indexes Retreat After Recent Records** - The Dow leads losses, closing down 0.7%, while the Nasdaq and S&P 500 had hit new records the previous day.
  • 7 (04:38) **Deep Dive: The Tension and Turnover at Bessent's Treasury** - A detailed report on how Bessent's broad mandate and aggressive management style are creating friction.

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Show Notes

P.M. Edition for Oct. 7. President Trump expects his Treasury Secretary to solve stubborn problems, including rising borrowing costs, high gas prices, and even the war on Iran. White House economic policy reporter reporter Brian Schwartz tells us how Bessent is taking the pressure out on his staff–and faces skepticism on Wall Street. Plus, the Trump administration is investigating Wells Fargo over its efforts to increase homeownership among Black Americans. And even as Israel loses residents to emigration, an increasing number of Americans are moving in. Pierre Bienaimé hosts.


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