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5 min readThe Muted Bear Market and the Case for a Different Kind of Bitcoin Cycle
Bitcoin fell roughly 50% from its all-time high—not the 70% or 80% drawdowns that have defined every previous bear cycle. For Joe Carlasare, that single number changes almost everything about how the asset should be evaluated going forward. In conversation with Peter McCormack, Carlasare makes the case that the bottom is already in, that the familiar four-year boom-bust pattern may be breaking, and that the combination of a maturing Bitcoin market, shifting institutional attitudes, and a structurally inflationary economy sets up a cycle that could surprise everyone.
What the Muted Drawdown Means
The most important data point in the episode is not a price target but a comparison. Bitcoin fell from roughly $126K to a low near $58K—a decline of about 54%. Previous bear markets saw 70% to 80% losses. That difference, Carlasare argues, is "extremely persuasive" evidence that the asset's risk profile is changing.
"If you have a first of all, in our markets today, one of the things I think is critical. I don't care if it's the treasury market, if it's the equity market, the real estate market, Bitcoin market… narratives are so important."
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:55) **Introducing Joe Carlasare** - Guest Joe Carlasare is introduced as a contrarian Bitcoiner with a different view on the economy and Bitcoin's price action.
- 2 (01:17) **Bitcoin's Recent Rip and the "IPO Moment"** - Carlasare argues Bitcoin bottomed in February and that the recent move above 80K was ignited by the Treasury buyback announcement, signaling a new phase.
- 3 (03:19) **The Muted Drawdown as a Bullish Signal** - Carlasare details why a ~50% drawdown versus 70-80% is a game-changer for institutional investors and the asset's risk profile.
- 4 (05:37) **The Challenge of Trading Bitcoin** - Carlasare explains why trying to trade Bitcoin is a "loser's game" due to the difficulty of nailing both the top and the bottom.
- 5 (08:18) **Why the Four-Year Cycle Thesis is Breaking** - Carlasare argues the four-year cycle must eventually break for Bitcoin to succeed as a store of value, and this cycle may be the one.
- 6 (10:50) **The Shift from HODLers to Allocators** - Carlasare explains the bullish significance of supply moving from concentrated early adopters to diversified portfolio allocations.
- 7 (15:06) **The Path to $200K+ and a New Paradigm** - Carlasare lays out his bullish case for Bitcoin reaching "high twos" or higher, driven by a shift from boom-bust to stable growth.
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Show Notes
“You could have a massive cycle here this time around that will shock people.” — Joe Carlasare
Joe Carlasare is a commercial litigator, Bitcoiner and author of Unconfiscatable.
In this interview, we discuss why he believes the Bitcoin bottom is in, how the recent drawdown changes Bitcoin’s risk profile, and why a move above $100K could trigger the next major cycle.
We also discuss institutional adoption, the future of the four-year cycle, Bitcoin-backed banking and credit, Treasury buybacks, fiscal dominance, AI investment, structural inflation and why Joe is bullish on the economy, markets and Bitcoin.
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