Top 10 Killers on the Loose, a Livestreamed Execution, and Shrek’s Massive Hog, With Rob Mahoney

October 15, 2026

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Shrek's Hog, a Livestreamed Execution, and the Man Who Became a Dragon

On a July day in 2008, a man named Dragan Dabič boarded the number 73 bus out of New Belgrade. He was 63, a holistic healer with a big white beard and gray hair tied in a knot on top of his head—"the air of a Slavic Jerry Garcia," as the episode describes him. Patients came to him for diabetes, asthma, stress, impotence. He treated them by rebalancing their "bioenergy" and sold necklaces called "Velbing" (well-being spelled the Serbian way) that he claimed protected against harmful radiation. When men with badges boarded the bus, he went without struggle. He'd been expecting it.

Thirteen years earlier, during the Bosnian War, Dragan Dabič had overseen the massacre at Srebrenica—nearly 8,000 men and boys murdered, pulled from their families at the UN base or hunted through the woods, then bused to warehouses and fields where they were shot. He commanded the siege of Sarajevo and the shelling of civilians. His real name was Radovan Karadžić, former president of the Bosnian Serb Republic. He'd been living underground since the mid-90s, aided by Serbia's state security service. The identity card he carried under the name Dragan Dabič was identical to a 66-year-old construction worker's—same name, same serial number, same date of issue, differing only in the photographs. Investigators could not say whether th

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What you'll learn

1 (01:37) **The Radovan Karadžić Capture Story** - The episode opens with a vivid second-person narrative of Radovan Karadžić living undercover in Belgrade as a new-age healer before his arrest in 2008.
2 (04:35) **Introducing Rob Mahoney for Terror Month** - Jason and Tyler welcome Rob Mahoney, jokingly debating who the "most normal" person at The Ringer is before diving into dark topics.
3 (11:37) **Xavier Dupont de Ligonnès: The French Nobleman Mass Murderer** - Rob presents his first "active" killer on the loose: Xavier Dupont de Ligonnès (XDDL), who murdered his wife and four children in Nantes, France, in 2011.
4 (17:56) **The Disappearance and Mysterious Friends** - Rob explains how XDDL vanished after the murders, with key details about his flight and the suspicious behavior of his close friends.
5 (36:40) **Top 10 Killers on the Loose: The Active List** - Rob runs through his personal ranking of the most chilling active criminals, starting with Robert William Fisher and William Bradford Bishop.
6 (44:10) **Joseph Kony and the Art of Disappearing** - The conversation shifts to Joseph Kony, the elusive leader of the Lord's Resistance Army, and the broader fantasy of vanishing without a trace.
7 (47:02) **Historic Unsolved Killers: Mr. Cruel and The Doodler** - Rob moves to historic cases, highlighting Mr. Cruel in Australia and The Doodler in San Francisco as terrifying unsolved mysteries.

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Guests on this episode

Rob Mahoney

Show Notes

Is Rob Mahoney the most normal man at The Ringer? Debatable. But we are sure that he’s our guest today and down to get weird with Jason and Tyler. On the agenda today: a French aristocrat accused of murdering his family who became a fugitive, Jason’s top 10 fugitives still on the loose, a discussion about the Fort Hood shooter’s execution, and a lengthy debate about Shrek’s, umm, anatomy. (0:00) The war criminal who became a healing doctor (03:05) Our guest: Rob Mahoney (05:02) Rob’s conspiracy theory: Kelly Clarkson and the animatronic bird (10:39) Xavier Dupont de Ligonnès: Who is XDL? (15:05) The bodies under the terrace and his last known location (28:49 Why hasn’t he been charged? French law and Anatomy of a Fall (35:10) Top 10 fugitives still on the loose (42:42) Remember Kony? (43:23) How would you disappear in 2026? (45:27) Historic cases: Mr. Cruel, the Doodler, Freeway Phantom, I-70 Killer (55:07) Possible serial killer on a Lansing, Michigan, trail (58:04) The Fort Hood shooter’s execution debacle (01:03:18) How do you feel about Shrek’s d**k? (01:10:04) One more CIA gold bar update (01:13:49) Hackers heat up French supermarket fridges (01:17:30) Former German spy chief arrested for treason (01:21:58) The Lighthouse of Alexandria signet found underwater Subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@waitasecondpodcast Email us: [email protected] Follow us on IG: @waitasecondpodcast Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker Guest: Rob Mahoney Producer: Justin Sayles Video editing: Jordan Satmary Engineering: Sarah Reddy Social media: Paige Ransbury Thumbnail: Matt James

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