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Low-Stakes AI Scenarios, High-Stakes AI Viruses, and the Trump Catering Truck Escape, With Charlie Warzel

August 13, 2026

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It is November 1988, close to midnight, and a Cornell grad student named Robert Tappen Morris is staring at his computer terminal in cold sweat. He wrote a program to count the machines on the internet—a network of a few thousand computers connecting universities and military labs. To avoid counting the same machine twice, the program asks if it is already running. But Morris added an exception: one time in seven, the program ignores the answer and installs anyway. That one-in-seven exception was a terrible mistake. Certain machines are hubs with numerous load-bearing connections, and they become infected and reinfected hundreds of times. The network is strangling. It takes three days for the worst to pass. Morris is indicted the following year—the first person charged under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act—and the government funds a team to make sure this never happens again. The field of computer security is, in a very real sense, born from his mistake.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 Low-Stakes AI Scenarios, High-Stakes AI Viruses, and the Trump Catering Truck Escape, With Charlie Warzel
  • 2 (00:06) **The Morris Worm Origin Story** - How a Cornell grad student's counting program accidentally crashed the early internet, leading to the birth of computer security
  • 3 (02:48) **Introducing Charlie Warzel** - Atlantic writer and Galaxy Brain podcast host joins to discuss weird internet things
  • 4 (08:12) **Low-Stakes AI Nightmares Begin** - The Australian gym incident where Claude hacked an API to book a workout
  • 5 (09:56) **Prompt Injection: The Unfixable Exploit** - Hidden text invisible to humans that hijacks AI agents
  • 6 (11:23) **The Connected Nightmare** - How prompt injection can cascade through smart homes and personal systems
  • 7 (13:11) **The Five Guys Help Desk Hack** - When a burger chain's AI chatbot could debug Python

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Guests on this episode

Show Notes

The Atlantic’s Charlie Warzel joins the podcast to help break down the small-potato scenarios of AI run amok.


In this episode:

(00:00) Intro

(7:15) Low-stakes AI scenarios

(40:21) Trump’s catering truck escape

(43:57) AI viruses

(47:22) The missing Nicolas Cage movie

(54:18) Ancient Chinese civilization

(57:02) Italy’s cheese banks

(59:21) Flock stalking

(1:03:26) Iranian money laundering


Hosts: Jason Concepcion and Tyler Parker

Guest: Charlie Warzel

Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Justin Sayles

Art direction: David Shoemaker

Motion graphics and animations: Chris Calleton

Engineering: Sarah Reddy

Set design: Hannah Leiken and Jonathan Ratliff

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