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'The Bible is not a policy manual’: Christians reckon with immigration under Trump

May 3, 2026

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In this episode of NPR's Up First Sunday story, host Aisha Roscoe highlights a discussion from NPR's It's Been a Minute, where host Brittany Lewis interviews NPR religion correspondent Jason DeRose and Rev. Dr. Gabriel Salgiero, president of the National Latino Evangelical Coalition and pastor in Orlando. They examine how U.S. churches are responding to Trump administration immigration enforcement, the government's use of biblical language to justify policies, and whether such rhetoric aligns with scripture.

Varied Church Responses to Immigration Enforcement

Churches show diverse reactions to Department of Homeland Security (DHS) actions like deportations, which have led to 25-30% drops in worship attendance in some Latino evangelical communities. Parents' detentions have placed children in foster care or with trusted guardians, sparking "righteous indignation" among Latino evangelicals. DeRose notes contrasts: white progressive churches in areas like Minneapolis organize street protests, following DHS agents with whistles, while predominantly Latino Catholic congregations in Los Angeles deliver groceries to fearful members avoiding services. Some white evangelical churches emphasize rule of law and support enforcement, aligning with strong Trump backing in polls. Salgiero stresses evangelicals are not monolithic—headlines often mean white evangelicals, overlooking nearly

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  • 1 (00:04) **Host's Faith and Policy Interest** - Aisha Roscoe discusses her Christian faith as a journalist and curiosity about Trump admin's biblical rhetoric on policy
  • 2 (01:04) **Interview Intro** - Brittany Lewis introduces Jason DeRose (NPR religion correspondent) and Rev. Dr. Gabriel Salgiero (Latino Evangelical leader) on church-state separation and immigration
  • 3 (04:16) **Latino Church Anxiety** - Salgiero describes disappointment and attendance drops from deportations, righteous indignation in Latino Evangelical communities
  • 4 (05:03) **Varied Church Responses** - DeRose reports progressive churches protesting, Latino churches delivering food to fearful members avoiding services
  • 5 (06:16) **Churches Supporting Enforcement** - DeRose notes white conservative evangelicals back Trump via rule-of-law focus per polling
  • 6 (07:23) **Evangelicals Not a Monolith** - Salgiero stresses diversity (Latino, Asian, African evangelicals indignant vs. white focus in headlines)
  • 7 (08:14) **Government Biblical Rhetoric** - DeRose details DHS videos quoting Beatitudes over raids, Mike Johnson's 1300-word tweet justifying borders, Pete Hegseth's warrior gospel at Prayer Breakfast

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Show Notes

Evangelicals in America are divided over immigration enforcement. So who gets to claim the side of God?

This week on The Sunday Story, NPR’s Brittany Luse sits down with two people who think a lot about the separation of church and state: NPR’s religion correspondent, Jason DeRose, and the Rev. Dr. Gabriel Salguero, president and founder of the National Latino Evangelical Coalition. DeRose and Salguero unpack the rhetoric of conservative white Evangelicals and discuss what happens when the government uses scripture to justify policy. How does the Christian tenet of “welcoming the stranger” come to bear on current debates about U.S. immigration enforcement and war?

This conversation was originally published as an episode of NPR’s It’s Been A Minute podcast: “Christians are having a Trump-sized reckoning.”

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