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Should we worry about the end of the world?

July 12, 2026

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Ben Bradford, host of the new NPR Network podcast Are We Doomed?, started keeping a notepad tally of ways the world could end. The list includes nuclear war, climate change, pandemics, AI, and less immediate threats like supervolcanoes, aliens, and something called Grey Goo. His goal was to sort the real, pressing dangers from the ones that just feel real because of pop culture and breathless media coverage. What he found, after talking to experts across multiple fields, is that the most urgent existential risks are all human-made, and that the best defense against them is not a bunker full of supplies, but something far more mundane: community, communication, and good project management.

The Four Real Threats Are All Human-Made

Bradford’s research, guided by organizations that track existential and global catastrophic risk, consistently points to four main threats: nuclear war, climate change, pandemics, and AI. The common thread is that all four are created by humans. This is a crucial distinction from natural disasters, because it means the danger is something we have the power to cause—and, in theory, to prevent. The most surprising entry on the list for many listeners is AI, which Bradford admits he initially dismissed as science fiction. But after talking to experts and the people building the technology, he changed his mind.

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  • 1 (00:00) **Introduction: The Doomsday List** - Host Maya Sherost introduces Ben Bradford, host of the new podcast "Are We Doomed," who has been keeping a tally of ways the world could end.
  • 2 (02:31) **Why the Doomsday List?** - Ben explains his motivation for creating the list, stemming from his reporting on business, energy, and political division.
  • 3 (03:52) **The Four Pressing Existential Risks** - Ben identifies the four main threats tracked by experts: nuclear war, climate change, pandemics, and AI.
  • 4 (04:49) **AI as an Existential Threat** - Ben explains how AI, despite current limitations, could become a serious risk.
  • 5 (07:03) **The Fantasia Analogy for AI Risk** - Ben uses the "Sorcerer's Apprentice" scene from Fantasia to illustrate how an AI could go wrong.
  • 6 (08:56) **AI Misuse by Bad Actors** - Ben highlights the risk of AI being used for harm, such as engineering viruses.
  • 7 (10:27) **Natural Threats vs. Man-Made Threats** - Ben explains that natural threats like supervolcanoes and asteroids are less pressing due to their long timeframes.

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Show Notes

From climate change to the rise of AI - it’s hard not to feel like human civilization could be nearing the end. What threats are really worth worrying about? And what can we do to survive a global catastrophe? Today on The Sunday Story, Ben Bradford, host of the new NPR Network podcast Are We Doomed?, tells us what he’s learned about the end of the world.

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