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Pam Bondi Out, Iran Charges Strait Tolls, International Meeting on Hormuz

April 3, 2026

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Pam Bondi's tenure as U.S. attorney general has ended amid criticism over her handling of Jeffrey Epstein-related files and efforts to prosecute President Trump's political opponents. The episode also examines Iran's proposal to impose tolls on ships transiting the Strait of Hormuz during heightened conflict, alongside an international virtual meeting convened by the UK to seek non-military solutions for reopening the strait.

Bondi's Dismissal and DOJ Legacy

Pam Bondi was removed after the White House cited her mishandling of law enforcement files on convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Last year, she shared binders of documents with MAGA-aligned figures, who dismissed them as outdated. In a Fox News interview, Bondi claimed a client list was on her desk for review, but the DOJ later clarified no such list existed, fueling conspiracy theories. Some released files included victims' names and images, and substantial material remains withheld, per lawmakers. Bondi faced a scheduled congressional deposition this month, though its status is uncertain.

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  • 1 (00:21) **Pam Bondi Out as Attorney General** - Teaser on her ouster after obeying president's demands but losing trust over Epstein files
  • 2 (02:33) **Bondi's DOJ Under Trump** - History of making Justice Department subservient, pursuing indictments against political opponents
  • 3 (03:01) **Epstein Files Mishandling** - NPR's Carrie Johnson on Bondi sharing binders with MAGA figures, false Fox News claim of client list on her desk
  • 4 (04:04) **Failed Prosecutions of Trump Enemies** - Efforts against Comey, James, Democratic lawmakers, Schiff, Brennan largely rejected by judges and grand juries
  • 5 (04:46) **Bondi's DOJ Legacy** - Massive exodus of prosecutors/FBI agents; criticized for degrading independence, ignoring court orders
  • 6 (05:39) **Todd Blanche as Interim Leader** - Deputy AG running DOJ; speculation on permanent replacement needing Senate confirmation
  • 7 (06:16) **Iran's Strait of Hormuz Toll System** - Formalizing fees up to $2M per ship via government codes, escorts; claim of sovereignty like Suez Canal

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Show Notes

Attorney General Pam Bondi is out after facing backlash for the Justice Department's mishandling of the Epstein files and failing to deliver the prosecutions of President Trump's enemies.
Iran is formalizing a toll system for ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz, charging up to two million dollars per vessel, as the energy crisis deepens and critical goods remain stuck at sea.
And more than 40 countries met to discuss reopening the strait, but neither Iran nor the U.S. were at the table.

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Today’s episode of Up First was edited by Dana Farrington, James Hider, Nick Spicer, Mohamad ElBardicy, and Alice Woelfle.

It was produced by Ziad Buchh and Ava Pukatch.

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(0:00) Introduction
(02:18) Pam Bondi Out
(05:59) Iran Charges Strait Tolls
(09:45) International Meeting on Hormuz

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