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5 min readTalking with the dead
A dinner invitation arrives asking you to bring a photo of someone you've lost. You arrive at a table decorated with stars and ribbons, surrounded by strangers. The first question isn't about death at all—it's "What makes you feel alive?" Then everyone shares stories about the people in their photos. As the evening progresses, the conversation shifts: what if you could talk to an AI recreation of the person in your photo? How would that change your grief?
This is not a seance or a support group. It's a research focus group run by Katarzyna Nałęcz-Basińska, a professor at the University of Cambridge who has spent more than a decade studying digital immortality. She travels to China, India, and Poland hosting these dinners, gathering ordinary people to explore what happens when emerging technology lets us talk to the dead.
The illusion of reciprocity
The core appeal of "dead bots" is straightforward. As Nałęcz-Basińska puts it: "There is this kind of illusion of reciprocity that I ask you a question and I can hear your answer. And isn't that what many of us want?" To speak with people we've lost, to continue that relationship after they're gone.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (01:01) **The Dinner Party Invitation** - The episode opens at a research dinner where guests bring a photo of a dead person they love.
- 2 (05:04) **Why We Want to Talk to the Dead** - Host Liza Soap explains her personal connection to this question.
- 3 (06:55) **The Documentary and Big Questions** - The study uses a documentary called *Eternal You* to spark discussion.
- 4 (08:40) **The Digital Legacy Industry** - The market for grief tech is massive and growing.
- 5 (10:27) **Speculative Design and Deadbot Prototypes** - Researcher Tomasz Hollinak uses speculative design to explore potential harms.
- 6 (12:17) **Prototype 1: Manana** - An app that resurrects grandparents.
- 7 (13:54) **Prototype 2: Parent** - An app for a terminally ill mother to leave a version of herself for her son.
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Show Notes
“If only I could talk with them again.” It’s a common refrain for anyone who is grieving someone they love. Now, we can access technology like deadbots, or AI replicas of a lost loved one, to simulate those conversations, but at what cost? Maybe we’ve always had the capacity — within our own voices — to deepen conversations with the people we’re missing, even after they’re gone.
GUESTS: University of Cambridge assistant professors Katarzyna Nowaczyk-Basińska and Tomasz Hollanek, writer and psycholinguist Julie Sedivy.
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