Ep 1438 | Al Robertson Looks Back on the One Belief That Nearly Destroyed His Marriage
October 9, 2026
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5 min readThe Robertson family opens this episode of Unashamed with a sharp critique of a specific kind of online content: the reaction video where a creator clips someone else’s words, takes them out of context, and builds a platform on critique. Jase Robertson calls it “infused self-righteousness,” arguing that while calling out false doctrine is legitimate, building a following by belittling others under the guise of edifying the church is harmful. Al Robertson adds that he learned to handle both praise and criticism by refusing to let either stick to him. “I just had a job to do,” he says. But the conversation quickly pivots from modern media to an ancient text, as the family moves into their ongoing study of Homer’s Odyssey through Hillsdale College’s free course. The throughline of the episode is this: the Odyssey presents four competing visions of the good life, each embodied by a woman Odysseus encounters, and the choice he makes mirrors the spiritual dilemma every person faces. But Homer, the Robertsons argue, can only take the story so far. Without the gospel, the hero has no way to actually attain the life he’s seeking.
The Underworld and the Regret of Glory
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:01) **Opening & Banter** - The hosts discuss content creation, online trolls, and the trend of reaction videos.
- 2 (09:06) **Odyssey Lectures 7 & 8 Introduction** - The group transitions to discussing the Hillsdale College course on The Odyssey, covering lectures seven and eight.
- 3 (14:01) **Achilles in the Underworld** - A key moment is discussed: Odysseus meets Achilles, who regrets his choice of glory over a long life.
- 4 (16:30) **Taming Desires & C.S. Lewis** - The conversation moves to the theme of taming human desires, a central thread in the lectures.
- 5 (22:37) **The Four Women: Competing Visions of the Good Life** - The group analyzes the four women Odysseus encounters, each representing a different vision of a good life.
- 6 (31:02) **Modern Parallels to the Four Women** - The hosts apply the four archetypes to modern life and relationships.
- 7 (36:07) **The Dilemma: Even Penelope Isn't Enough** - Al shares a personal story about his marriage, arguing that even the "best" choice (Penelope) can become an idol.
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Show Notes
Al, Zach, Christian, and John Luke take aim at the internet’s obsession with rage bait, reaction videos, and critics who build entire platforms by tearing other people down. The guys connect Homer’s Odyssey to modern life by examining the competing pulls of pleasure, comfort, success, and purpose, and why none of them can fully satisfy. Zach gets personal about the point in his marriage when he realized even a good marriage can become an idol, while Al reflects on the breakthrough that came when he and Lisa stopped expecting each other to be what only Christ could be. The conversation ultimately turns to how fantasy, nostalgia, and unrealistic expectations can distort marriage, faith, and our idea of the good life.
In this episode: Luke 15:11–32; Luke 16:19–31; John 5:39–40; 1 Corinthians 2:9–10; 1 Peter 1:3–7; 2 Peter 1:5–8
Today’s conversation is about Lesson 7 & 8 of The Odyssey taught by Hillsdale Professor Dr. Benedict Whalen. Take the course with us at no cost to you!
More about The Odyssey:
The Odyssey tells the tale of the cunning and crafty hero of the Trojan War on his journey home. After ten years of war, Odysseus faces another ten years of fantastic temptations, deadly monsters, treacherous seas, and impious men. Meanwhile, Ithaca is threatened by suitors who plague his wife and plunder his wealth. When Odysseus reaches home, he must slay the suitors, test the loyalty of his friends and family, and restore order to his marriage and his kingdom.
Join Dr. Benedict Whalen as he explores themes of love, marriage, kingship, duty, and piety. Encounter Homer's epic, which displays the full human experience. In a world of uncertainty, Odysseus charts a path towards peace through perseverance, prudence, and justice.
Join Odysseus on his fantastic journey home from Troy in Homer’s unrivaled story.
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Chapters
00:00 The Problem With Internet Critics
05:12 When Criticism Becomes a Business
09:25 Odysseus Enters the Underworld
13:33 Achilles Regrets Chasing Glory
18:26 Desire, Temptation & the Good Life
22:11 Four Women & Four Ways to Live
28:02 Pleasure, Comfort, Success, or Purpose
34:20 The Hardest Path Might Be the Best One
40:18 Al & Lisa’s Marriage Breakt
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