Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Unashamed with the Robertson Family

Ep 1411 | Jase Finds the One Man Who Matches Phil Robertson’s Passion for Jesus

September 1, 2026

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The Man Who Matches Phil Robertson's Fire for Jesus

"Other than my dad, I have not met anybody that is on fire for Jesus Christ as this man right here." That's Jase Robertson's introduction of Todd Lawler, a man with cerebral palsy who uses a wheelchair, speaks with a significant impediment, and has built a ministry around one conviction: every Christian already has four spheres of influence that no one else can reach.

The episode centers on a single question that both Jase and Al Robertson keep returning to: what does it actually look like to be unashamed of the gospel in everyday life? The answer, developed through conversation with Lawler, is not about formal preaching or church programs. It is about intentional, ordinary encounters with the people already in your life.

The Four Spheres No One Else Can Reach

Lawler's framework, which he lays out in his new book Mobilize Your Missional Life, is deceptively simple. Every Christian has been placed by God into four specific spheres of influence: family, friends, coworkers, and what he calls "Holy Spirit appointments"—the strangers you encounter who are providentially placed in your path.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:01) **Opening: The Unashamed Calling** - Al and Jase Robertson discuss the "high season" of fall events and the shared fire to share Jesus, comparing it to the prophet Jeremiah's internal compulsion.
  • 2 (14:42) **Jase's Schoolyard Ministry** - Jase describes a recent, unplanned opportunity to speak about Jesus to a junior high football team before school.
  • 3 (26:50) **Introducing Todd Lawler** - Al and Jase introduce their guest, Todd Lawler, a man they both independently met and consider to be one of the most passionate evangelists they know, on par with Phil Robertson.
  • 4 (37:18) **Todd's Testimony: Weak is the New Strong** - Todd Lawler shares his personal journey from being a "cultural Christian" to having a life-changing encounter with God in his dorm room.
  • 5 (44:10) **The Magnet for Jesus** - Gary Glenn and Jase recall their personal experiences of walking through LSU campus with Todd, observing his unique evangelistic style.
  • 6 (53:48) **The Gospel Conversation Starter** - The group discusses the practical tools and mindset for everyday evangelism, using the "arrow cross" symbol as a prime example.
  • 7 (59:40) **Call to Action & Closing** - Todd Lawler shares how listeners can support his ministry and get his new book, *Mobilize Your Missional Life*.

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Show Notes

Todd Lollar has lived with cerebral palsy his entire life, but the Robertsons see in him the same relentless fire for Jesus that defined Phil. Todd opens up about the moment he stopped viewing his weakness as something holding him back and began seeing it as a place for God’s power to work through him. Jase and Al reflect on the emptiness of worldly success, the cost of openly following Jesus, and why Christians shouldn’t wait for people to walk into a church before bringing the Gospel to them. Todd gets an emotional surprise reunion with longtime friend Gary Osborne and challenges believers to intentionally bring Jesus into their families, friendships, workplaces, and everyday encounters.


In this episode: Jeremiah 20:9; Romans 1:16; Psalm 127; Matthew 5:11; Matthew 9; Colossians 2; 2 Corinthians 12:9-10; 2 Timothy 2:2; Luke 8:1; Luke 9:1; Luke 10:1; John 9; 1 Thessalonians 5:4


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Chapters

00:00 How Jase’s Unashamed Journey Began

05:48 Zach Finds Confidence in the Gospel

10:32 The Emptiness Behind Worldly Success

14:18 Jase Brings Jesus Into a Public School

21:30 The Greatest Comeback Ever

26:11 Jase Refuses a Meet-and-Greet

30:12 Meet Todd Loller

37:46 Todd Finds Strength in His Weakness

41:11 A Surprise 20 Years in the Making

45:48 A Culture Paralyzed by Fear

53:41 The Gospel Is Simpler Than You Think

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