Ep 1400 | The Robertsons Take a Sledgehammer to the Logic of ‘Open Marriage’
August 17, 2026
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5 min readThe Robertsons Take a Sledgehammer to the Logic of ‘Open Marriage’
On this episode of Unashamed, Phil, Al, Jase, and Zach Robertson work through a single sustained argument: that idolatry, sexual immorality, and the destruction of human life are not separate sins but a single cascade. The conversation starts with a group text and a sermon from Jeremiah 22, then widens into a biblical theology of what happens when God's people stop treating other people as image-bearers. The central claim is that an "open marriage" is not a creative alternative to traditional marriage but a logical contradiction—a round square—that belongs to a much older pattern of participating with demonic forces rather than with God.
The Jeremiah Warning and the Valley of Slaughter
The episode's anchor text is Jeremiah 19 and 22, which Zach Robertson received in a group text and then developed into a Sunday sermon. In Jeremiah 19, God announces disaster on Judah because the people "have filled this place with the blood of the innocent" and "built the high places of Baal to burn their sons and daughters in the fire as offerings to Baal." Phil Robertson emphasizes God's own words: "Something I did not command, mention, nor did it enter my mind." The valley where this happened—Gehenna, the Valley of Hinnom—later becomes Jesus' metaphor for hell.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:00) **Episode Introduction & Toyota/Pepsi Ads** - Hosts Phil, Al, Jase, and Zach Robertson open the show with banter about a group text and a sermon Jase wrote.
- 2 (05:22) **The Verdict in Jeremiah & the Book of James** - Phil reads Jeremiah 19 and 22, showing God’s judgment on Judah for child sacrifice and oppression of the vulnerable.
- 3 (21:55) **1 Corinthians 10: Participation in Demons vs. the Lord** - Jase introduces 1 Corinthians 10 as the perfect illustration of the line between idolatry and true worship.
- 4 (23:25) **Jesus on Anger & the Fire of Gehenna** - Phil explains how Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount connects anger with murder and the "fire of hell" (Gehenna).
- 5 (28:04) **Sexuality, Idolatry, and the Purpose of Sex** - The hosts argue that the church often reduces sexual ethics to a rule list, missing the deeper link between idolatry and sexual immorality.
- 6 (32:46) **The Five-Step Cascade to Sin & Death** - Jase outlines a five-step cycle from 1 Corinthians 10: setting your heart on evil, becoming an idolater, committing sexual immorality, testing the Lord, and facing judgment.
- 7 (40:09) **Open Marriage as an Oxymoron** - The hosts apply the cascade to the modern concept of open marriage, calling it a logical and spiritual impossibility.
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Show Notes
The abortion debate takes an unexpected turn as Jase, Al, and Zach challenge the language surrounding pregnancy, choice, and what culture has stopped treating as a blessing. Jase connects that to Mia’s diagnosis before birth and the perspective shift that changed how he and Missy faced what was ahead without minimizing the difficulty. The guys draw a provocative line between idolatry, sexual immorality, “open marriage,” and what happens when reverence for human life starts to erode.
In this episode: Jeremiah 19, verses 3–4; Jeremiah 22, verses 3–5; James 1, verses 26–27; James 2, verse 8; James 3, verse 9; James 4, verse 2; James 5, verses 5, 9, 13–20; 1 Kings 11, verse 2; 1 Corinthians 10, verses 6–10, 14–22; Matthew 5, verses 21–22; Romans 1, verse 21; Genesis 1, verse 28
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Chapters
00:00 Jase’s Group-Text Sermon Gets Out of Hand
05:42 The Ancient Battle Still Showing Up Today
09:18 Jeremiah’s Warning & the Verdict That Followed
15:46 James Connects Faith to the Way We Treat People
19:40 The Road From Idolatry to Destruction
26:09 Jesus Takes Murder Straight to the Heart
32:00 The Five-Step Slide From Desire to Disaster
37:25 Thanks the Antidote to a Darkened Heart
42:12 When a Consequence Becomes a Blessing
46:10 Phil’s Wildest Marriage Advice Returns
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