Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Unashamed with the Robertson Family

Ep 1395 | Jesus Challenges the Role Women Are Expected to Play

August 10, 2026

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Jesus Challenges the Role Women Are Expected to Play

The Robertson family opens this episode with a personal milestone: they've unearthed the original twelve episodes of what would eventually become Unashamed, recorded years ago before the podcast had a name. Phil Robertson, who initially didn't know what a podcast was ("Do we get in a pod?"), had wanted an internet Bible study. The family is now releasing those lost episodes on a new ad-free platform called Ekkle (short for Ecclesia), which also hosts Christian movies and family-friendly content. But the conversation quickly moves from nostalgia to a deeper study of James 3, and specifically how Jesus treated people who were very different from one another.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 Timestamped Outline
  • 2 (00:01) **Opening Banter & Personal Updates** - Jase returns from travel, discusses upcoming speaking event at Dry Men's Bones and using footage from the Lisa-focused movie for his testimony
  • 3 (02:51) **Origin Story of Unashamed Podcast** - Phil Robertson's initial confusion about podcasting and the evolution from "internet Bible study" to the show it is today
  • 4 (06:45) **Launch of EKKL Platform** - A new ad-free streaming platform for Christian and family content, including the rediscovered original Unashamed episodes
  • 5 (08:50) **Reflections on Podcast Growth** - Jase's accidental journey from guest to permanent host, now 1400 episodes later
  • 6 (14:46) **Introduction to James 3 Theme** - Transitioning into the main teaching about how people treat each other as a reflection of their relationship with God
  • 7 (17:57) **Mary and Martha: The Familiar Story** - Jase reads Luke 10:38-42, setting up the classic tension between Martha's service and Mary's stillness

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Show Notes

Al, Jase, and Zach take a fresh look at the expectations placed on women through the story of two very different sisters, including what happens when one steps outside the role her culture expected. The guys wrestle with the double standards people create for different personalities and why being “wired differently” never excuses jealousy, control, selfish ambition, or a bad attitude. They also look back at Phil’s first reaction to the idea of podcasting—a story that may make a lot more sense once the original “lost” episodes that eventually became “Unashamed” start dropping soon. 


In this episode: James 3, verses 17–18; Luke 10, verses 38–42; John 11, verses 17–27; John 11, verses 32–35; James 4, verse 7; Matthew 13, verses 1–23; John 15, verses 1–8; Matthew 7, verses 16–20; Romans 12, verse 9; Matthew 10, verses 34–39


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Chapters

00:00 Phil’s Reaction to Podcasting

04:11 The Lost “Unashamed” Episodes 

07:19 Jase Is the Guest Who Never Left

14:02 Different Personalities, One Body of Christ

17:28 Jase Reconsiders Mary & Martha

22:16 Martha Gets a Bad Rap

31:42 Jesus’ Deep Bond with His Friends

35:20 When Serving God Looks Less Like Jesus

39:37 Selfish Ambition Can Poison a Church

43:01 The Process of Producing “Good Fruit”

47:13 What Biblical Impartiality Looks Like

50:23 Peace Doesn’t Mean Comfort

52:33 Jesus’ S

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