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5 min readOn January 28, 1989, a disabled woman named Mary Ann Daniels was found murdered in her rented room in Everett, Washington—strangled with an electrical cord and beaten with a light wire. More than three decades later, a cold case investigator sat down with a former resident of that boarding house, a man named Joe, to collect a DNA sample. The conversation that followed was not a straightforward interview. It became a slow, unsettling game of psychological cat-and-mouse, as the investigator tried to break through Joe's wall of amnesia and indifference while he insisted he remembered nothing—not Mary Ann, not the night she died, not how his DNA could possibly be on the ligature used to kill her.
The Unwitting Suspect and the Forgotten Victim
The investigator, who works cold cases for the Everett Police, began the interview gently, asking Joe about his life in 1989. He had moved from Colorado to Washington for work, landing a grueling job at a trucking company where he worked 60 to 80 hours a week, sometimes 28-hour shifts. He lived in a rented room in an old house at 2108 White—a transient boarding house where tenants paid week-to-week and came and went. Joe remembered the house, the long hours, the bars he drank at alone. But when the investigator brought up Mary Ann Daniels, he drew a blank.
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- 1 (01:23) **Episode Introduction & Context** - The podcast host sets the stage for a true crime story involving a cold case and a suspect interview.
- 2 (03:19) **Setting the Scene: The Suspect's Background** - The detective probes the suspect about his personal history, including an altercation involving his wife and his own past legal trouble.
- 3 (05:29) **Establishing a Timeline: Moving to Washington** - The interrogation shifts to the suspect’s relocation to Washington state, focusing on his early days and living situation.
- 4 (10:30) **The Boarding House: Life at 2108 White** - The detective focuses on the specific boarding house where the suspect lived, asking for details about the property and its residents.
- 5 (14:21) **Reconstructing a Day: Saturday, January 28, 1989** - The detective narrows the focus to a specific Saturday, attempting to reconstruct the suspect's activities on the day of the murder.
- 6 (44:32) **Introducing Other Suspects: The "Sketchy Guy"** - The detective brings up another person of interest, a "sketchy guy" who was interviewed and later arrested, to see if it jogs the suspect's memory.
- 7 (54:44) **The Victim: Mary Ann Daniels** - The detective introduces the victim, Mary Ann, and describes her personality and disability to the suspect, who claims not to remember her.
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