Dumbest Killer Has No Idea CCTV Caught Him, Thinks He Can Get Away Denying It
October 5, 2026
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5 min readOn August 23, 2022, Stephanie Pavlans, 44, was last seen with her longtime boyfriend, Matthew Paul, 57. Seventeen days later, her body was found in a wooded area near Delafield, Wisconsin. The interrogation that followed—captured on video and presented in this episode—shows Paul repeatedly denying any involvement, even as investigators calmly walk him through CCTV footage that contradicts nearly every detail of his story.
The Interrogation Opens
The interview begins with Paul, 57, in a defensive posture. He immediately tells the detectives he has had "extremely bad experiences" with law enforcement in Waukesha County, claiming he was once charged for a crime he didn't commit and only avoided conviction because his attorney proved the DA's office had withheld exculpatory evidence. "The truth is supposed to set you free," he says, but adds that cooperating with police in the past only led to him being charged anyway.
The detectives, identifying themselves as working for the Waukesha County Sheriff's Department, try to build rapport. They assure Paul they are not there to charge him with anything and just want to ask questions about Stephanie's whereabouts. Paul eventually agrees to talk, but not before making it clear he is skeptical: "I go by my gut, okay? And if I feel that I'm gonna be played, that's it, attorney."
The Story Unravels
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:31) **Case Introduction and Suspect Background** - The episode introduces the disappearance of Stephanie Pavlans and the police interrogation of her longtime boyfriend, Matthew Paul.
- 2 (08:15) **Building Rapport and Reading Rights** - Detectives work to overcome Paul's defensiveness and formally read him his Miranda rights.
- 3 (18:24) **The Relationship with Stephanie** - Paul describes the nature of his long-term, non-exclusive relationship with the victim and her severe mental health struggles.
- 4 (36:10) **The Last Time He Saw Her** - Paul gives his initial account of the last day he saw Stephanie, claiming she vanished after a doctor's appointment.
- 5 (49:55) **The Discovery of the Purse** - Paul introduces a key piece of evidence: Stephanie's purse and a suicide note found in his truck, but he claims he found them weeks later.
- 6 (99:47) **The Timeline Contradiction** - The detectives present CCTV footage that directly contradicts Paul's story about the purse, exposing a major lie.
- 7 (115:50) **The Confrontation and Breakdown** - Paul is cornered by the evidence and attempts to deflect, before finally requesting an attorney.
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Show Notes
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