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My Response to Rishi Sunak - Konstantin Kisin

September 27, 2026

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My Response to Rishi Sunak – Konstantin Kisin

Former Prime Minister Rishi Sunak wrote a piece in the Sunday Times about identity, integration, and Konstantin Kisin—without naming him, but quoting him. The quote in question came from a TRIGGERnometry episode a year earlier, where Kisin, in the heat of a debate about English identity, said of Sunak: “He’s a brown Hindu. How is he English?” Kisin concedes the phrasing was poor. He meant “British Asian,” the term the BBC uses without controversy. He texted Sunak a private apology. No reply. That’s the part he concedes.

What he will not concede is that the position behind the bad phrasing was racist. Kisin argues that his own children—born in England to British parents, both white—are not English either. They are British. Suella Braverman, Sunak’s own former Home Secretary, wrote an article saying the same about herself: she is a proud British Asian, but not English. If the charge is racism, Kisin says, the accusation collapses. The real argument is not about race but about the difference between ethnic and civic identity—a distinction Sunak’s article deliberately blurs.


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  • 1 (01:05) **Rishi Sunak's Response and Kisin's Concession** - Konstantin Kisin responds to former PM Rishi Sunak's Sunday Times article about identity, integration, and a 2024 TRIGGERnometry clip.
  • 2 (03:40) **The Real Argument: Ethnic vs. Civic Identity** - Kisin reframes the debate on its merits, challenging Sunak's claim that anyone born in England can simply declare themselves English.
  • 3 (05:49) **The Failure of the Multicultural Experiment** - Kisin argues that the debate exists because the "multi-faith multi-ethnic democracy" Sunak celebrates feels unsuccessful to a large and growing number of people.
  • 4 (08:28) **Demographic Change and Human Nature** - Kisin links the identity debate to unprecedented demographic change, where white British people are now a minority in several major cities including London.
  • 5 (11:33) **The Only Way Out: The Empire Model** - Kisin proposes that the only successful model for a multi-ethnic society is the empire model, where a single founding ethnic group creates a civic identity to incorporate others.
  • 6 (13:15) **Defining Britishness** - Kisin offers a definition of Britishness through a story from journalist Richard Miniter about a Ugandan tribesman who wanted the British to return.
  • 7 Standout Quotes

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