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5 min readWhy everyone's an introvert now
It started with a listener's observation: "Everybody in their mama is proclaiming to be an introvert." Ladell, a self-described extrovert who had dated an introvert and read The Introvert Advantage, noticed people he knew—people he'd seen "swinging from chandeliers" every weekend—were now calling themselves introverts online. He wasn't trying to gatekeep temperament, but the trend was unmistakable. So he called Vox's Explain It to Me to ask: is this real, and if so, why?
What introversion actually means
Shannon Sauer-Zavala, a psychology professor at the University of Kentucky who researches personality, started with a correction: introversion and extroversion are not categories you either belong to or don't. "Most of the things that we use to describe people are on continua," she explained. You can be more towards one side or the other, but there's no clean dividing line.
People on the introverted side need less stimulation, have less energy to expend in social situations, and derive less energy from them. Extroverts are the opposite: more excitable, more positive, and they get energy from being around others. But Sauer-Zavala herself described as "neither" introvert nor extrovert—she's in the middle, shifting depending on context.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (05:25) **What Introversion Actually Means** - Professor Shannon Sauer-Zavala defines introversion and extroversion as a continuum, not a binary category.
- 2 (07:14) **The Introvert Renaissance** - Sauer-Zavala explains why more people are identifying as introverts online.
- 3 (08:12) **Do We Get More Introverted as We Age?** - Sauer-Zavala breaks down how the sub-facets of extraversion shift over a lifetime.
- 4 (09:30) **Personality Science vs. Pop Psychology** - Sauer-Zavala distinguishes how academics measure personality from how people talk about it at dinner parties.
- 5 (13:00) **Personality Is Not Your Essence** - Sauer-Zavala explains the scientific definition of personality and why people resist changing it.
- 6 (16:31) **Why We Love Personality Labels** - Sauer-Zavala and the host discuss the appeal of putting ourselves in buckets.
- 7 (17:49) **Personality Is Malleable** - Sauer-Zavala argues that personality is not fixed, and we should cultivate traits intentionally.
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Show Notes
Move aside extroverts. In this episode — which aired last year — we explore personality types and whether they are set in stone.
This episode was produced by Danielle Hewitt, edited by Jenny Lawton, fact-checked by Melissa Hirsch, engineered by Patrick Boyd and hosted by Jonquilyn Hill. Photo by We Are/Getty Images.
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