This Will End In A Deflationary Depression | Michael Pento

August 4, 2026

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The Deflationary Depression That Michael Pento Sees Coming

"After however long this sojourn into chaos lasts and reflation and disinflation—that carnival ride, whenever it ends—I think it ends in disinflation, then deflation and depression. And I said D and I meant it. It's depression, not recession."

Michael Pento, founder of Pento Portfolio Strategies, joined Adam Taggart on Thoughtful Money to lay out a stark structural argument: the U.S. economy is carrying three concurrent asset bubbles of record proportion—equities, credit, and real estate—and the mechanisms that have kept them inflated are breaking down. The path forward, in his view, leads through a deflationary depression followed by a government response that produces hyper-stagflation.

The Three Bubbles and the Balance Sheet Trap

Pento's core framework is a five-stage business cycle model driven by fiscal and monetary policy. The model tracks the second derivative of inflation and growth to determine positioning across stocks, bonds, commodities, and currencies. Currently, he places the economy in "Sector Three"—a stasis zone—but expects the eventual destination to be Sector One: deflation and depression.

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1 (03:58) **Current Model Stage & Portfolio Stance** - Michael Pento reveals his proprietary 20-point business-cycle model and explains why he has neutralized his portfolio into Sector Three (stasis), shifting to a mostly equal-weight S&P 500 position with a mix of inflation and disinflation hedges.
2 (06:43) **Why the Iran Conflict Drives Yields and Markets** - Pento traces the global transmission mechanism: rising oil prices force Japan to sell yen and dump US Treasuries to buy dollars for energy, directly pushing US bond yields higher.
3 (08:52) **The Central Thesis: Deflationary Depression Is Coming** - Pento states his core conviction: after the current "carnival ride" of reflation and disinflation ends, the outcome will be disinflation, then deflation, and finally a depression—not a recession.
4 (11:45) **Kevin Warsh's Dilemma: The Fed's Balance Sheet Problem** - Pento analyzes the new Fed Chair's stated commitment to 2% inflation, noting the balance sheet has actually grown by $38 billion since Warsh took office, effectively continuing QE.
5 (13:46) **The Unprecedented Credit Bubble** - Pento details the scale of the credit excess: $1.6 trillion in private credit, $1.4 trillion in CLOs, $1.5 trillion in junk bonds, and $570 billion in projected AI-related debt by 2026.
6 (15:59) **Why the Next Recession Will Be Different** - Pento explains that past rescues worked when debt-to-GDP was 60%, but at 123%, deficits will explode to $6 trillion as automatic stabilizers kick in, and the Fed will be forced to monetize again.
7 (19:46) **Timeline: When Does the Deflationary Depression Hit?** - Pento estimates the deflationary depression could arrive around 2027, depending on when Warsh acts on the balance sheet, but warns against trying to time it.

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Adam Taggart

Show Notes

July ended up being a painful month.It was the Nasdaq's worst July in 22 yearsBonds experienced their biggest July yield-spike since 2005And oil's saw its biggest July price increase in over 30 yearsWhat's driving all this?Is this just a mid-year pressure-release before prices resume climbing? Or are these signs that momentum is rolling over?Most importantly: what does all this mean for investors?What positioning makes sense in this environment?For answers, we're fortunate to welcome back money manager Michael Pento, founder & CEO of Pento Portflio strategies.

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