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5 min read"Don't Eat That"
Alex Clark grew up in a conservative Christian home in southern Indiana, eating the standard American diet—six Rice Krispies Treats and a Hawaiian Punch for lunch in high school. She never questioned food safety because, as she puts it, conservatives were trained to distrust the media and the Department of Education, but "we just assumed if it's being sold in the grocery store, then it's safe." That assumption collapsed during the pandemic, when she watched the Hulu series Dopesick about the opioid crisis and realized the FDA had been catastrophically wrong before—about thalidomide, about OxyContin being "the first non-addictive opioid." That realization sent her down a rabbit hole reading about Monsanto, the American Beverage Association, and the revolving door between food companies and the government agencies meant to regulate them.
From Turning Point to Culture Apothecary
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:03) **Introduction: Skepticism as a Superpower** - Mike and Chuck introduce Alex Clark and the episode's central theme of questioning what we put in our bodies.
- 2 (05:37) **Alex's Origin Story: From Standard American Diet to Skeptic** - Alex describes her upbringing eating ultra-processed food and how the pandemic and the "Dopesick" series shattered her trust in institutions.
- 3 (12:59) **The Birth of Culture Apothecary: A Conservative Health Movement** - Alex details how she convinced Turning Point USA to let her rebrand her show, correctly predicting that health would become the defining issue for conservative women.
- 4 (14:54) **The Glyphosate Executive Order: A Case Study in Corruption** - Alex explains the controversy around the Trump administration's executive order protecting glyphosate (Roundup), framing it as a backroom deal for a foreign chemical company.
- 5 (21:14) **Explosive Growth and the MAHA Movement** - Alex reveals how her podcast's rebranding perfectly coincided with RFK Jr.'s endorsement of Trump, causing her show to explode in popularity.
- 6 (25:02) **Navigating Information, Knowledge, and Wisdom** - Mike challenges Alex on the difficulty of discerning truth in a sea of information, asking how she stays confident she's right when she was once so sure about the conventional wisdom.
- 7 (30:08) **Manufactured Consensus vs. Genuine Skepticism** - Mike and Alex discuss the power of manufactured consensus and how to tell the difference between a genuine truth and a narrative pushed by powerful interests.
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Show Notes
What if some of the food we've been told is convenient, affordable, and perfectly safe is actually making us sick? Alex Clark, host of the popular Culture Apothecary podcast and a passionate advocate for healthier food, joins Mike to discuss Breaking Big Food, a documentary in which she appears that takes a hard look at what's really behind America's processed-food problem.
The conversation explores how Big Food adopted tactics pioneered by Big Tobacco, the science and marketing behind ultra-processed foods, what happens when corporate interests collide with public health, and why it's so difficult to know what's actually good for us anymore.
But this isn't just a crusade for Alex—it's personal. She tells Mike about her father's battle with chronic illness and death, and how it inspired her mission to figure out why so much of what we eat seems determined to kill us. Alex gets fired up. Mike gets curious. And together, they ask a simple question: What exactly are we eating?
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