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Blake & Justin Settle, Jessi's Leaked DM's w/ Emily D Bake, Tom Schwartz Talks SH, Valley And Love!

May 6, 2026

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Reality TV Crosses Over, Blake and Justin Settle, and Tom Schwartz Falls in Love

The same day Vulture magazine published a piece celebrating reality TV's ascension into mainstream celebrity culture—featuring Nick Viall, Lindsay Hubbard, and others—Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni announced they had settled their legal battle just weeks before trial. The timing captured something the episode spends considerable time unpacking: reality TV stars are no longer the butt of the joke, but they're also not quite treated like traditional celebrities either. The Vulture piece itself, as Nick notes, carried a "cheekiness" toward its subjects, including a line about Nick Van Steenbergen pursuing "the most tried and true reality side hustle: DJ for hire." The message was clear: reality stars are being taken more seriously, but the coverage still comes with digs.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (02:23) **Reality TV's Mainstream Arrival** - Nick and the co-hosts discuss the Met Gala and a Vulture article celebrating reality TV stars, marking a shift in cultural credibility.
  • 2 (07:25) **Nick Viall's Vulture Profile & The “Cheekiness” of Reality TV** - The hosts react to Nick's own profile in the Vulture piece, focusing on the writer's condescending tone and the unique position of reality stars in media.
  • 3 (12:56) **The Met Gala's Strange Rules & Blake Lively's Settlement** - The show pivots to a discussion of the Met Gala’s bizarre etiquette rules before announcing the major news of the day: the settlement between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni.
  • 4 (22:57) **Legal Breakdown: The Blake Lively & Justin Baldoni Settlement** - Emily D. Baker joins to explain the legal implications of the sudden settlement, just weeks before the trial was set to begin.
  • 5 (33:26) **“Plaintiff Fatigue” and the Reality of Trial** - Emily and Nick explore the psychological toll of litigation, suggesting that the emotional cost may have been a bigger factor than money in the settlement.
  • 6 (40:00) **Enforcing the NDA and the Mormon Wives Drama** - The conversation shifts from the Lively/Baldoni NDA to the ongoing legal drama within the “Mormon Wives” cast, specifically a leaked audio recording of Jessi.
  • 7 (54:27) **The Future of Mom Talk and Taylor Frankie Paul** - The hosts analyze the current state of the “Mom Talk” cast and what the future holds for the show after the legal battles.

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Show Notes

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap! Wednesday edition!

He's baaaaaack! Tom Schwartz drops in to give his thoughts on falling in love, Summer House drama, what to expect on this season of The Valley and more! Plus, Emily D Baker joins to give us all the updates on the Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni settlement and Jessi's leaked DMs with Dakota, as well as if MomTok will survive the departure of Whitney Leavitt. You won't want to miss it :) 

"Will Mom Tok survive?"


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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
16:03 - Emily D Baker Joins
1:01:03 - Tom Joins

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