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5 min readIn the Vergecast episode "Were we too nice to the Steam Machine?", senior editor Sean Hollister and host David Pierce return to the $1,049 Steam Machine weeks after its review to answer listener pushback. The central tension is clear: the device received a 6/10 score, but many readers felt the review was still too generous. The conversation becomes a careful unpacking of what makes the Steam Machine hard to evaluate — not because it's a bad product, but because its value depends entirely on who you are and what you expect from a living room PC.
The case against: price, performance, and audience
The most pointed criticism comes from a listener named Jude, who argues that the Steam Machine is a terrible deal in every conceivable market. If you have no gaming machine or library, a PlayStation 5 offers double the value per dollar. If you have a Steam library but no machine, building your own PC or buying a pre-built is cheaper and more powerful. The only remaining buyer, Jude argues, is someone who already owns a powerful gaming PC, has disposable income, and just wants an extra TV box for chill games and streaming.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (03:20) **The Core Thesis: Were We Too Nice?** - David introduces the two main categories of feedback: the price/value proposition and the "Valve of it all."
- 2 (04:05) **Jude's Critique: A Terrible Deal for Everyone** - A listener argues the Steam Machine only serves a tiny, unrealistic niche and that The Verge was too lenient.
- 3 (04:52) **The Defense: You Can't Build This for This Price** - Sean argues the value is in the total package (size, noise, cooling), not just raw specs.
- 4 (05:51) **Why It's a 6, Not an 8** - Sean clarifies the score reflects the device's unfinished state, not its price.
- 5 (08:22) **The X-Factor: Steam OS vs. Windows** - The operating system is the key differentiator that's hard to replicate.
- 6 (10:09) **The Single Point That Changes the Score** - Sean reveals the exact fix that would bump the Steam Machine from a 6 to a 7.
- 7 (11:04) **The Longevity Problem** - A listener questions the device's future-proofing given its fixed hardware and 8GB of VRAM.
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Show Notes
Valve's Steam Machine might be exactly the living room console you've been waiting for. Or it might be too expensive, totally pointless, a waste of everyone's money and shelf space. The Verge's Sean Hollister joins the show to talk through all the feedback we've been getting about our coverage and our review. Is Valve's history a pro or a con? Is the price reasonable or ridiculous? Who is this device actually for? We have much to discuss.
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