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5 min readđď¸ The Voices & The Context
- The Format: This is a casual, conversational podcast episode with two distinct interview segments, bookended by the host's personal musings.
- The Key Players:
- David Pierce (Host): Your friendly, tech-obsessed guide. He's excited about a weird new modular phone and has strong opinions about breakfast sandwiches.
- Kate Klonick (Guest): A law professor and author who has declared war on cookie banners. She's the expert with a mission.
- Allison Johnson (Guest): A senior reviewer from The Verge. She's the brave soul who lets David ruin her life with phones, and she's here to talk about letting AI plan her day.
- The Vibe: Fun & Educational. The conversation is lively, full of nerdy passion, and surprisingly relatable. It feels like listening to smart friends rant about the internet's most annoying problems.
đď¸ Key Themes & Topics
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:00) **đď¸ Introduction: David Pierce & Guest Kate Klonick**
- 2 (04:12) **The Case for Killing Cookie Banners**
- 3 (08:02) **The History of the Cookie Banner**
- 4 (12:44) **Why "Nothing" is Better Than Cookie Banners**
- 5 (17:43) **The Problem of "Manufactured Consent"**
- 6 (24:56) **The "Brussels Effect" and Apple's Role**
- 7 (30:08) **Is Real Change Possible?**
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Show Notes
Cookie banners â those pop-ups that appear on practically every webpage demanding you accept their tracking systems â are one of the most consistent low-grade annoyances of life online. But Kate Klonick, a professor and writer, argues they're actually much worse than that, and the only plausible solution is to get rid of them entirely. After that, The Verge's Allison Johnson tells us about her AI-enhanced Google Maps experience, and why the new Ask Maps feature has the potential to be both incredibly cool and incredibly creepy. Then, she helps David answer a question from the Vergecast Hotline (call 866-VERGE11 or email â [email protected]â !) about whether E Ink phones might solve all our problems.
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