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How we really feel about the iPhone Duo | Livestream

October 21, 2026

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“This is some Android shit,” Allison Johnson recalls thinking during her first days with the iPhone Duo. That sentence captures the disorienting experience of reviewing Apple’s first foldable phone — a device that is simultaneously thrilling, frustrating, and unlike anything the company has made before. On this episode of The Vergecast, David Pierce sits down with reviewers Nilay Patel and Allison Johnson to unpack the iPhone Duo, a device that forces everyone to ask the same question: should you buy a $2,000 early-adopter experiment as your main phone?

The size debate: passport shape and the outer screen problem

The most immediate and consequential design decision Apple made with the Duo is its shape. It uses a “passport” form factor — wider than a traditional phone when closed, with a square-ish inner screen when opened. This is the same approach Samsung took with the Z Fold 8, and the reaction has been nearly identical: renders looked goofy, but holding it changes your mind. “I’m on board with the passport shape now,” Johnson says. “You pick it up and you’re like, no, actually this makes a lot of sense.”

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  • 1 (02:16) **Welcome and First Impressions** - David Pierce introduces the episode with reviewers Nilay Patel and Allison Johnson to discuss the iPhone Duo after their reviews went live.
  • 2 (05:23) **The Size and Shape Debate** - The panel dives into Apple's "passport" form factor and whether the outer display is useful or a compromise.
  • 3 (09:57) **Changing Your Relationship to Your Phone** - The hosts explore whether the foldable form factor can genuinely alter how you interact with your device.
  • 4 (12:41) **The App Ecosystem Mess** - A deep dive into the chaotic state of third-party app support on the Duo.
  • 5 (16:14) **The iPad Question** - The central mystery of the episode: why didn't Apple just let the Duo run iPad apps?
  • 6 (20:59) **Small Annoyances and Hidden Settings** - A look at the weird quirks Apple built into the first-gen device.
  • 7 (38:01) **Camera Compromises** - The trade-offs in the Duo's camera system and how they compare to the regular iPhone.

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iPhone Duo reviews are out today and... it's complicated. David Pierce, Nilay Patel and senior smart phone reviewer Allison Johnson talk through The Verge's review and answer your questions LIVE.


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