How BYD beat Tesla

January 20, 2026

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🎙️ The Voices & The Context

The Format: Casual tech podcast with host-led interviews and a hotline Q&A—chatty breakdowns of recent news, rapid-fire games, and personal anecdotes.
The Key Players:
- David Pierce (Host): Energetic Verge editor, shares quirky wins like rigging an IKEA button to his smart home; drives fun tangents.
- Hayden Field (Guest): AI reporter; plays "Big Deal, Medium Deal, Small Deal" game on AI news, brings sharp analysis and humor.
- Andy Hawkins (Guest): Auto reporter; deep-dives BYD's rise, contrasts CES vibes, recounts personal EV rides.
The Vibe: Fun and geeky—educational tech talk laced with banter, self-deprecating laughs (e.g., email inboxes from hell), and "water cooler" hype around AI drama and Chinese EVs.

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What you'll learn

1 (00:00) **🎙️ Introduction: Hayden Field (AI Reporter) & Andy Hawkins (Auto Reporter)**
2 (03:54) **Anthropic's Claude Code & Co-work**
3 (09:54) **Anthropic Product Moves: Mike Krieger to Labs**
4 (13:36) **ChatGPT Health Launch**
5 (20:43) **AI Buy Buttons Onslaught**
6 (24:29) **Grok Deepfake Scandal**
7 (28:51) **Gmail AI Inbox Upgrades**

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Show Notes

There’s a new biggest name in EVs, and if you live in the US, you pretty much can’t buy one. But before we get to that, we have some stuff to catch up on: The Verge's Hayden Field joins us for a round of “Big Deal Medium Deal Small Deal” with some AI news, from the launch of ChatGPT Health to the recent viral moment for Claude Code. After that, The Verge’s Andy Hawkins joins the show to explain how BYD recently eclipsed Tesla as the world’s largest seller of electric vehicles, what makes its cars so desirable, and when you, too, might be able to buy a Dolphin Surf. Finally, David tackles a question from the Vergecast Hotline (call 866-VERGE11 or email [email protected]!) about giving your kids iPads instead of iPhones, and whether all screen time is created equal.