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5 min read“I can't say that I feel hot and spicy,” Abby says about halfway through this episode, and that line captures the tone of the whole conversation — honest, unglamorous, and grounded. Matt and Abby are approaching their third baby, and instead of pretending they have it all figured out, they walk through what they got wrong the first two times and what they are doing differently this round. The episode is essentially a postmortem of their previous postpartum experiences, filtered through the lens of someone who has been humbled enough to plan better.
Postpartum is longer than pregnancy — and harder to prepare for
One of the first facts they surface is that postpartum is officially considered 12 to 18 months after birth — longer than the pregnancy itself. Abby points out that sleep hormones, pelvic floor function, metabolism, and mental health can all still be recovering a full year later. The wound left behind by the placenta is the size of a dinner plate, and if you add a C-section on top of that, you are recovering from two major injuries at once. Matt notes that even skeletal remains can reveal whether a woman has had children — the changes are permanent. Abby says that on this third baby, she cares less about the physical changes and is more amazed by what her body can do. “I’m just not as concerned about any of those things,” she says, which is a shift from her first p
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- 2 (01:26) **Postpartum Reality Check** - Matt and Abby kick off the episode by joking about granny panties, vasectomies, and the physical changes of late pregnancy
- 3 (02:13) **Pregnancy Update & Final Stretch Logistics** - Abby shares her latest doctor's appointment and the family's chaotic schedule leading up to the due date
- 4 (04:51) **Matt's Turkey Trip & Abby's Solo Week** - Matt explains the hair transplant trip logistics and Abby expresses anxiety about being alone with the kids while heavily pregnant
- 5 (06:56) **Kids' Stranger Confidence & Safety Conversations** - The couple discusses how their kids' outgoing nature has led to important conversations about stranger safety
- 6 (08:44) **Fruit Debates & Frugal Moms** - A lighthearted detour into eating habits, fruit preferences, and family money styles
- 7 (09:42) **Birthday Party Logistics & Joint Party Hot Take** - The couple plans birthday parties around the unpredictable due date and Abby shares her strong opinion on joint celebrations
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Show Notes
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