The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Getting cheated on & co-parenting 7 kids w/ 4 fathers ft. Kail Lowry

August 12, 2026

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Kail Lowry, who first appeared on 16 and Pregnant and the Teen Mom franchise, found out her fiancé Elijah had cheated on her when the woman he slept with posted a storytime on TikTok that went viral with three million views before Kail even saw it. She was on a work trip in Calabasas with no cell service. Ten months had passed since the cruise she paid for. When her assistant told her there was a photo of the woman touching Elijah’s arm, Kail didn’t need more proof: “He’s that type of person—if he allowed someone that close to him to touch his arm, he did it.” She told her assistant to have him moved out by the time she landed at 7 a.m. He was gone.

Cheating from both sides

Kail has been both the cheater and the cheated on, and she speaks from that dual experience without moralizing. When you are the cheater, she says, “you can’t sleep at night because of what you’ve done or what is in your phone.” She still has two exes she would apologize to today if she saw them: “I loved the way they loved me, but I didn’t want them. So why didn’t I end it? That was so selfish.” On the receiving end, she got her karma—cheated on multiple times by people she would have done anything for. Her advice is blunt: “Sex won’t make him love you, and a baby won’t make him stay.”

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (02:37) **Life Update & Cheating Discovery** - Kail summarizes the last two years: the twins are now 2.5, she found out their father cheated on a cruise she paid for via a viral TikTok, and she has a new boyfriend she's known since high school.
  • 2 (10:11) **On Being Both a Cheater and Cheated On** - Kail gives advice from both sides of infidelity, explaining why it's never worth it and how she's processed her own past.
  • 3 (14:33) **Public Pressure to Reconcile & Maintaining Ex Relationships** - Kail reacts to fans asking her to get back with Elijah, and breaks down how she communicates with all four fathers of her children.
  • 4 (21:01) **Over a Million Dollars in Court Costs** - Kail reveals the staggering amount she has spent on custody battles, with 90% of the cost tied to one father.
  • 5 (26:05) **Advice to Young Women on Having Children** - Kail gives blunt, heartfelt advice about not using a baby to keep a partner or build a family out of desperation.
  • 6 (29:12) **Dream of Law School & Son's Name Change** - Kail discusses her aspirations to become an entertainment attorney and her son Elliot's decision to go by his middle name.
  • 7 (33:04) **The Burden of Being the Breadwinner** - Kail opens up about hating being the sole provider and how it affects her relationships, and Isaac later offers his perspective.

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Show Notes

Kail Lowry is back! We catch up on everything that’s changed since her last visit—from raising seven kids and watching her oldest reach the age she was when she became a mom, to her plans for law school, the pressure of supporting a huge family, and what life looks like with her new boyfriend, Isaac. Plus, Isaac joins us to talk relationships, money, marriage, and what it’s really like stepping into Kail’s very public world. Shopify: Build your own business with a free trial at https://shopify.com/unplanned Nutrafol: Get $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping at https://nutrafol.com with promo code UNPLANNEDPOD. Hiya Health: Receive 50% off your first order of Hiya kids vitamins athttps://hiyahealth.com/UNPLANNED—this deal is only available at this link or find Hiya in Target stores nationwide. Zocdoc: Taking care of your health just got easier - start here with Zocdoc: https://zocdoc.com/UNPLANNED #sponsored Honeylove: Save 20% Off Honeylove by going to https://honeylove.com/UNPLANNED! #honeylovepod Follow The Unplanned Podcast: https://www.instagram.com/unplanned__podcast/ https://www.tiktok.com/@unplanned_podcast Listen to the pod on Spotify/ Apple Podcasts: https://open.spotify.com/show/1ToDA4ufQuWuEgMq07zN6t https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-unplanned-podcast/id1669604504 Follow Matt & Abby: Abby's Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/abbyelizabethoward/ Matt's Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/_matt_howard_/ TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@matt_and_abby Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/mattandabb YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/@MattandAbby Mascara is sold out! Thank you guys so much! Sign up here for updates on restock: https://www.biswell-beauty.com/ Chapters: 02:02 - Catch up 02:42 - Therapy 04:29 - Breaking off my engagement 08:21 - Cheating 11:38 - Turning pain into profit 13:46 - Cost of custody 22:15 - Having more kids 25:31 - Moving to NC 26:25 - Legal reform 28:08 - Law school 32:09 - Being the breadwinner 36:58 - Cosmetic surgery 39:30 - My Team 44:39 - Losing my father 48:00 - How I'm raising my kids differently 51:15 - Tour 51:54 - Dating with 7 kids 1:09:35 - Audience questions 1:18:00 - Agree or Disagree

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The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby