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20VC: The Future of Datacentres: What You Need to Know | Why Everyone Gets GPU Depreciation and AI's Energy Costs Wrong | Who Really Makes Money From AI & Why Most Moats Don't Exist with Chase Lochmiller

October 3, 2026

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The Infrastructure of Intelligence: What Crusoe Energy's CEO Learned Building AI's Backbone

Chase Lochmiller, CEO of Crusoe Energy, started his career convinced he would become a theoretical physicist—a monastic life of discovery. When that path felt too slow, he recalls thinking: "Absent having a purpose, I was like, man, I guess I should get rich. Like that's maybe the next best thing." That pragmatic pivot led him through quantitative finance and eventually to founding a company now valued at $30.9 billion, building the physical infrastructure that powers AI. The conversation covers how Crusoe navigates supply chains, why Lochmiller believes most competitive moats are illusions, and what everyone gets wrong about data centers and GPU depreciation.

Thinking Like a Mountaineer

Lochmiller has embedded mountaineering philosophy into Crusoe's culture as a core value. The principle: have plans A through D ready because conditions change—weather fails, gear breaks, partners get sick. "Getting up to the top is optional, getting down is mandatory," he says, applying that safety-first mindset to both physical construction and digital security.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (04:49) **Mountaineering as a Management Philosophy** - Chase explains how mountaineering principles are embedded into Crusoe’s culture, using the sport as a metaphor for business resilience.
  • 2 (07:45) **The Power of a Blank Slate** - Chase describes the hardest change in his life: leaving his job to climb Everest with no next plan, which paradoxically became the creative opening for founding Crusoe.
  • 3 (09:14) **Why Financial Success Makes Better Entrepreneurs** - Chase argues that having a financial cushion allows founders to take bigger, more strategic risks without the fear of personal ruin.
  • 4 (12:00) **The Art of the Pivot: When to Endure vs. Change Course** - Chase reframes Crusoe's apparent pivot from Bitcoin to AI as a long-held plan that was finally activated by the ChatGPT moment.
  • 5 (15:07) **Why AI Data Centers Will Be Distributed, Not Centralized** - Chase explains the strategic insight that led Crusoe to build where energy is cheap, not where the internet is concentrated.
  • 6 (17:54) **The Real Supply Constraints: Power and Labor** - Chase identifies the two true bottlenecks in building AI infrastructure and explains how vertical integration solves them.
  • 7 (22:42) **Debunking the Data Center Myths: Water, Energy, and Taxes** - Chase systematically counters the three biggest public concerns about data centers with specific data from Crusoe's own facilities.

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Show Notes

Chase Lochmiller is the Co-founder and CEO of Crusoe. Crusoe builds and powers the data centres that companies use to train and run AI. It has raised approximately $6.4 billion in equity, including its latest $3.9 billion Series F at a $30.9 billion valuation. Its backers include NVIDIA, Founders Fund, Gavin Baker's Atreides Management, Mubadala Capital and Valor Equity Partners.

AGENDA:

04:40 What Does Climbing Everest Teach You About Building a Company?
17:40 What's Really Stopping Us From Building Enough AI Data Centres?
25:50 Are Data Centres Really Driving Up Your Energy Bills?
28:05 Will Half of Planned AI Data Centres Never Get Built?
32:10 How Quickly Can a GPU Pay for Itself?
38:35 Will Your GPUs Become Obsolete Before You've Paid Them Off?
44:20 What Does It Take to Produce the Cheapest Intelligence?
49:50 Will Companies Building Their Own Models Eat Into OpenAI's Business?
51:55 Can You Build a $30B Company and Still Be a Great Dad?

 

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