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5 min readInside a Ransom Exchange With Somali Pirates
The most unnerving moment came not during a firefight but in the minutes before one, when Dave Leaning, a former Royal Marine turned private security contractor, was kneeling in front of his boss—a legendary former commander of UK special forces—strapping an ankle holster onto him before he boarded a skiff to negotiate with Somali pirates. Leaning started whistling Bob Marley's "Stir It Up." His boss, the Colonel, picked up the lyrics. Soon the entire bridge crew was singing along. "It just broke the tension," Leaning recalls. "I don't know what that says about us or guys who were going into a tense situation, but we just had that little moment of shared togetherness."
How a Former Marine Ended Up Delivering Ransom
Leaning's path to counterpiracy work was accidental. After four years in the Royal Marines—including a tour in Sangin, Afghanistan, where within 72 hours he concluded "this isn't gonna work"—he got out intending to become a scuba instructor. He spent a summer diving in Gibraltar, then skied the length of Norway for 122 days, then dove in Greece. Looking for a new challenge, he cold-called the Colonel, the former commandant of the Commando Training Centre who had pinned Leaning's Green Beret on him years earlier. Leaning wanted to join his anti-poaching operation in East Africa.
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- 1 Inside a Ransom Exchange With Somali Pirates | David Leaning
- 2 (00:00) **Opening: Gunfire as Dialogue** - David Leaning introduces a theory that for Somalis, gunfire may be a form of dialogue rather than an attempt on life
- 3 (00:46) **Guest Introduction** - Jack Murphy introduces Dave Leaning, former Royal Marine who worked counterpiracy in Africa doing ransom deliveries and hostage recoveries
- 4 (01:47) **Pathway into the Royal Marines** - Leaning describes joining after university, inspired by his father's military service
- 5 (03:28) **Afghanistan Connection to Jay Morton** - Leaning relieved Jay Morton's company (3 Para) in Sangin, recognizing the exact positions Morton described on a previous episode
- 6 (04:43) **Afghanistan Experience** - Leaning shares formative moments from his time in Sangin
- 7 (13:26) **Post-Marines: Scuba Diving and Norway** - After service, Leaning trained as a scuba instructor in Gibraltar, then skied the length of Norway (1600 miles in 122 days)
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00:00 – Start
01:12 – Joining the Royal Marines
04:01 – Fighting in Afghanistan
12:52 – Leaving the Marines & Searching for What’s Next
16:20 – The Call That Changed Everything
21:14 – A Mysterious Private Security Job
27:48 – The Mission: Deliver a Ransom to Somali Pirates
33:20 – How Pirate Ransom Negotiations Actually Work
40:01 – Heading Into Pirate Waters Seriously Undergunned
52:20 – Arriving in Somalia & Meeting the Pirates
59:50 – Handing Over the Ransom
1:04:13 – 40 Armed Pirates & a Hostage Exchange Going Wrong
1:07:29 – A Second Pirate Gang Arrives
1:21:03 – Pirates Attack the Tugboats
1:28:18 – Life a
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