The Startup Ideas Podcast
The Startup Ideas Podcast

Writing, Religion, and Walt Disney with David Perell

November 16, 2022

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David Perell hated school. He felt stupid, trapped, and nihilistic for the first 20 years of his life. That experience became the engine for Rite of Passage, a five-week online writing program that now enrolls 438 students from 41 countries per cohort, charges a minimum of $4,000 per student, and operates with 38 staff. Perell describes the business as "Disneyland for writing" and draws on an unusual set of influences—the Bible, Peter Thiel, Nassim Taleb, and Walt Disney—to shape both his product and his company culture.

From personal failure to a differentiated education bet

Perell's founding story is rooted in a specific kind of failure. He describes himself as a "kicking and screaming kid" who felt like he was "in a prison called school" and "mounting to nothing." After college, he took Tiago Forte's "Building a Second Brain" course and saw a new model: cohort-based, live, scalable. He cold-called Forte, got a $20,000 grant from Tyler Cowen's Emergent Ventures, and spent it all on a Hollywood film crew to produce seven video modules in Mexico City. "I had nothing to lose," Perell says. "There was no other option." His father was an entrepreneur, and Perell internalized that there was no fallback. He called his dad after getting laid off and said, "I'm gonna go build an audience and I have the worst plan for two years, the best plan for 10." That framing—accept brutal ea

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:40) **Origin Story: From Hating School to Founding Rite of Passage** - David describes his miserable experience in traditional school and how taking Tiago Forte's "Building a Second Brain" course showed him the future of online education.
  • 2 (04:40) **The "Bad 2-Year, Great 10-Year" Plan** - David explains his philosophy of taking small, survivable bets before going all-in on a single venture.
  • 3 (09:33) **Why Full Commitment to Rite of Passage** - David explains his deep conviction that the world needs better writing education and that he is the person to build it.
  • 4 (11:45) **The Power of Writing on the Internet** - David shares a story about DMing a world leader on Twitter, illustrating the leverage of building an audience.
  • 5 (15:07) **The Business Model and Economics of Rite of Passage** - David breaks down the unit economics and scalability of his cohort-based course.
  • 6 (21:37) **The Funnel: Unique Signal, Audience, Community, Product** - David outlines his go-to-market strategy, starting with a differentiated "radio frequency" on the internet.
  • 7 (24:15) **Creating Culture Through Imitation** - David explains his philosophy of building culture by promoting and showcasing the right behaviors, rather than enforcing rules.

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Show Notes

Are you ready for the next iteration of Where It Happens? Greg Isenberg is now the host of the podcast, which will be focused on catching up with incredible guests at the intersection of community, commerce, and content. 

Today, Greg is joined by David Perell, writer and founder of Write of Passage, where students learn a step-by-step method for publishing quality content and distributing ideas, leading to unexpected opportunities and increased serendipity in their work and life. In this episode, we chat about building Write of Passage, Religion, Walt Disney and more. 



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