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Why You Need A Digital Detox with Andrew Wilkinson

May 19, 2022

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In July, Andrew Wilkinson, founder of Tiny Capital, found himself waking up miserable every day. He describes the feeling not as depression or an inability to get out of bed, but as a pervasive dissatisfaction—like scrolling Netflix on a Friday night knowing you want to watch a movie but nothing scratches the itch. That feeling had taken over his entire life. So he went to his lake house, turned off all devices, set an autoresponder, and told his assistant to call only in an emergency. For a full month, he did no music, no podcasts, no screens, no anything. He only read books on his Kindle and spent time with his kids. He had no idea what he was doing at the time, but in retrospect, he was performing a dopamine detox.

The Pleasure-Pain Balance

After the month ended, Wilkinson noticed something striking: things that had felt flat before were suddenly intensely satisfying. Walking into a cafe and hearing Muzak felt like the greatest thing he'd ever heard. Listening to a lecture on YouTube was like "a glass of ice water in hell." He wanted to understand why, and found his answer in an interview between Andrew Huberman and Dr. Anna Lemke of Stanford, who specializes in addiction.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:00) **Episode Introduction & Andrew's Office Setup** - Andrew Wilkinson joins from his home office in Victoria, BC, explaining why he uses a house on a cliff instead of a traditional office.
  • 2 (05:17) **The Digital Detox Origin Story** - Andrew describes the misery that led him to a full month of no devices, screens, or podcasts.
  • 3 (07:31) **The Science of Dopamine and the Pleasure-Pain Balance** - Andrew explains the neurochemistry behind his detox, referencing Dr. Anna Lemke's work on addiction.
  • 4 (09:53) **The Detox Experience: Withdrawal and Relapse** - Andrew describes the first 48 hours of excruciating silence and the instinct to capture moments.
  • 5 (11:49) **The Gamification of All Apps** - Discussion on how social products and even finance apps like Robinhood are now gamified to hijack dopamine.
  • 6 (13:14) **Self-Binding and Environment Hacking** - Practical strategies for managing dopamine addiction, including removing stimuli and using screen time limits.
  • 7 (16:00) **The Value of Boredom and Original Thought** - Discussion on losing the ability to be alone and bored, and how that stifles original thinking.

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Show Notes

Does dopamine have you hooked on tech? If you find yourself unable to put down the phone, it may be time for a detox. Entrepreneur and investor Andrew Wilkinson walks us through his personal addiction and how getting off the grid for a technological rehab helped him bring back his inner fire. Andrew is a father, original thinker, and co-founder of Tiny, a not so tiny company that buys internet businesses. He joins hosts Sahil Bloom and Greg Isenberg to explore creative boredom, original thinking, building your board of personal advisors, and humans inability to manage risk.


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