The Startup Ideas Podcast
The Startup Ideas Podcast

Why a Gamer Mindset Can Change Your Life and Business with Nicolas Cole and Dickie Bush

January 19, 2023

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Why a Gamer Mindset Can Change Your Life and Business

The Startup Ideas Podcast — Nicolas Cole and Dickie Bush


Nicolas Cole was one of the best World of Warcraft players in North America as a teenager. Dickie Bush played professional Call of Duty and logged thousands of hours on RuneScape. Neither of them knew this about the other when they first connected. But when they discovered it, the overlap made immediate sense: the same mental wiring that made them obsessive gamers turned out to be the engine behind their success as entrepreneurs and co-founders of Ship 30 for 30, a cohort-based course that teaches people how to start writing online.

The core insight, as Cole puts it, is that "video games increased my threshold for pain." He means this literally: the ability to sit in front of a computer and do something boring for 78 hours because you want one item upgrade is the same skill that makes entrepreneurship work. Bush agrees, adding that he learned more about business, economies, and working with teams from RuneScape than he did in college. Running an online business, he says, is "pretty much like playing a video game except you don't stack digital gold, you can stack real gold and do cool things with it in the real world." The underlying mechanism is the same: you're watching a number on a screen go up, whether it's gold in StarCraft or USD in your Chase accou

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:00) **Introduction & Guest Backgrounds** - Host Greg introduces Dickie Bush (former BlackRock) and Nicolas Cole (top WoW player, co-founder of Ship 30 for 30).
  • 2 (01:05) **Gaming as a Primer for Entrepreneurship** - Cole and Bush explain how competitive gaming built their entrepreneurial mindset.
  • 3 (03:42) **The "Great Online Game" & Obsessive Personalities** - They connect gaming to the "great online game" of building an audience and business.
  • 4 (06:42) **Why Obsess Over Writing on the Internet?** - Bush explains writing as a way to explore opportunities and democratize access to like-minded people.
  • 5 (11:31) **The "Cringe" Barrier & Playing the Game** - They address the fear of being "cringe" as a barrier to starting.
  • 6 (15:13) **"Imagine Taking This Seriously" - The Loser's Lament** - Cole compares the "cringe" criticism to gamers who say "imagine taking this game seriously" when they lose.
  • 7 (18:17) **Is There Truth to "Cringe" Twitter?** - They discuss the validity of "cringe" content like viral thread formats.

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Show Notes

Today Greg is joined by the founders of Ship 30 for 30. In this episode, you'll hear how to stop worrying about being 'cringe' on Twitter and start developing a writing habit that pays off in your business and in your life.
 
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LINKS FOR THIS EPISODE:
Production Team: https://www.bigoceanpodcasting.com

https://startwritingonline.com/
https://www.ship30for30.com/
Dickie Bush: https://twitter.com/dickiebush
Nicolas Cole: https://twitter.com/Nicolascole77


SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - Intro
0:55 - How esports (and obsessive attention) helps in business
11:30 - Playing the Twitter game right
25:00 - How to start writing
27:00 - Pseudonymity 
34:50 - Case Study: Ryan Holiday
41:45 - You're not special. The niche is special
45:48 - How to avoid doing too much

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