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Sabbaticals in the Age of AI: Finding Opportunity Amidst Job Automation with David Spinks

March 16, 2023

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Sabbaticals, Burnout, and the Bot That Might Run Your Community

David Spinks spent fifteen years cranking on startups before he finally stopped. He stepped down from CMX, the community company he founded that was acquired by Bevy, and took a full year off. No social media. No email. No meetings. No writing. Nothing. And only then did he realize how empty his tank actually was. "You don't really know the extent," he says. "Until you stop everything, put everything down, and get back in touch with yourself in the present moment." It took him a full year to feel a hundred percent again.

The Sabbatical Lesson That Applies Even If You Can't Take a Year

Spinks's core insight is that burnout is invisible from the inside when you've been in the same mode for a long time. "You didn't even know that you could feel better," he says, "because all you've known for fifteen years is cranking on startups." The solution doesn't have to be a year off. "Anything you can do to step back and create space is always going to be good for you. If you can't do a year but you can only do a week, do a week." He also challenges the assumption that things will fall apart if you leave. "There's a lot of ego in that, to think it's all about you. Stepping back created space for other people to step up, for new leaders to form." The same logic applies to community management. If your community revolves

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:14) **Welcome and the Sabbatical Experience** - David Spinks joins the show; the conversation opens with his recent sabbatical after stepping down from CMX/Bevy.
  • 2 (03:13) **Practical Advice for Taking Time Off** - How to step back even if you can't take a full year.
  • 3 (05:42) **Leaving a Community Without Burning Bridges** - Specific guidance for community managers who feel they can't step away.
  • 4 (08:31) **AI as a Community Management Tool** - Greg introduces an AI community manager product (Atress) and asks for David's take.
  • 5 (10:20) **How AI Bots Solve Specific Community Problems** - Three concrete use cases for AI in community management.
  • 6 (15:25) **The Bot vs. Human Community Manager Debate** - Exploring where AI excels and where humans still have the edge.
  • 7 (22:24) **The Irreplaceable Human Element** - Why in-person connection and shared experience are AI's blind spots.

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Show Notes

Today Greg is joined by David Spinks, the founder of CMX and author of The Business of Belonging: How to Make Community Your Competitive Advantage. In this episode, Greg and David talk about sabbaticals, bots as community managers, and having a personal board of advisors.

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SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - Intro
0:50 - Sabbaticals: Why you should take one
7:55 - AI community managers
23:55 - Ethics around bots in communities
31:30 - What's next for David Spinks
34:50 - Advice from Seth Godin, Ryan Hoover, Scott Heiferman and others (sort of)

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