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Building a Mini Berkshire Hathaway

September 1, 2022

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Building a Mini Berkshire Hathaway

The Founding Insight

Xavier Helgesen and Sieva Kozinsky met years ago at Sean Puri's San Francisco mastermind gatherings—the precursor to the My First Million podcast. Both were outliers in a room full of mobile app founders: Xavier was building a distributed solar company in Africa, and Sieva was working on an education startup. They became friends, and years later, after Sieva had sold his healthcare network business and Xavier was ready to move on from his solar company, they decided to do something together.

The key insight was reverse-engineering the last business they would ever want to work on. Instead of the typical startup sprint—build for five to ten years, sell, repeat—they wanted something they could work on for 20, 30, or 40 years. That led them to Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway model: a permanent holding company that acquires cash-flowing businesses and reinvests the proceeds internally, without the pressure to sell.

The Structural Advantages

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:00) **Introduction & Background** - Host Greg introduces guests Xavier and Sieva, setting up the conversation about building a "mini Berkshire Hathaway" and opting out of traditional employment.
  • 2 (01:47) **Xavier's Entrepreneurial Origin Story** - Xavier describes his early entrepreneurial drive, starting with leasing a mini-golf course at age 14.
  • 3 (05:05) **The Motivation to Earn** - Xavier and Greg discuss the importance of intrinsic motivation for young entrepreneurs.
  • 4 (06:00) **Xavier's Early Tech Venture & Better World Books** - Xavier recounts founding a proto-social network in college and then Better World Books, a social impact company that sold used books online.
  • 5 (10:00) **The "Abstract Complexity" Business Framework** - Greg identifies a key business model: taking a non-core, headache-inducing process off a client's hands and doing it efficiently.
  • 6 (11:11) **Xavier's Solar Venture in Africa** - Xavier describes founding a distributed solar company in Africa, making solar accessible via prepaid mobile payments.
  • 7 (12:11) **Sieva's Background & Immigrant Story** - Sieva shares his background as the son of a Soviet Jewish refugee, which drives his ambition.

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Show Notes

Are you ready to buy the business that will finance your future? Today we share the secret to generating wealth through acquisitions, explain why you need to invest for the long term, and teach the art of the deal.


Hosts Sahil Bloom and Greg Isenberg are joined by the founders of Enduring Ventures, Xavier Helgesen and Sieva Kozinsky, who are building the modern Berkshire Hathaway. Xavier and Sieva share the origin stories that shaped them into blue-collar entrepreneurs and explain why QSBS creates limitless economic opportunities in America. Finally, Sahil and Greg share what they believe to be the best businesses in the world and ask for your help to break down their unit economics.


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Sieva Kozinsky: https://twitter.com/SievaKozinsky

Xavier Helgesen: https://twitter.com/xavierhelgesen

Enduring Ventures: https://www.enduring.ventures/

Better World Books: https://www.betterworldbooks.com/

ZOLA Electric: https://zolaelectric.com/

Sahil Bloom: https://twitter.com/SahilBloom

Greg Isenberg: https://twitter.com/gregisenberg

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SHOW NOTES

00:21 Xavier’s Origin Story

06:01 Xavier’s 2nd Company

07:58 Better World Books & Zola Electric

12:12 Sieva’s Immigrant Origin Story

15:20 What is Enduring Ventures?

23:44 A Search Fund on Steroids

30:20 Patience is Key

33:58 Where Buffet is Right & Wrong

39:24 Great Companies = Great Narratives

43:21 Buying Businesses that Power America

45:40 Financing the Deal

51:40 QSBS Matters

54:25 Xavier’s Advise

59:30 Sieva’s Scaffolding Story

1:03:06 The Best Business’s in the World

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