#341 Katarina Szulc - Cartels Are Recruiting Drone Operators From the Ukraine War
September 21, 2026
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5 min readKatarina Szulc, a journalist based in Mexico City who reports on cartels and organized crime, returned to the podcast to share what she has learned from her recent fieldwork in Mexico and Ukraine. One of the most striking developments she describes is that Mexican cartels are now recruiting drone operators from the war in Ukraine, using the skills those fighters acquired to expand their own capabilities. The conversation ranges across the shifting balance of power between cartels, the deep entanglement of the Mexican government with criminal organizations, and the brutal mechanics of human trafficking networks that connect small Mexican towns directly to American cities.
The Cartel Landscape After El Mencho
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What you'll learn
- 1 (01:07) **Katarina Szulc Returns – Ukraine Trip & Valeria Marquez Update** - Szulc describes her recent reporting in Ukraine and updates the Valeria Marquez TikTok-murder case, including the arrest of R1 for the mayor’s murder and the ongoing search for R1’s son.
- 2 (17:36) **Cartel Landscape: CJNG Absorbing Sinaloa Factions** - Szulc maps the current power struggle, explaining that CJNG is absorbing the Chapitos faction of the Sinaloa cartel through an alliance against the Mayo faction.
- 3 (24:22) **How Politicians Navigate Cartel Power Shifts** - Szulc explains that politicians survive by playing the game as long as possible, with their hands tied by the threat of murder if they step out of line.
- 4 (29:23) **Rising CJNG Sub-Cell & Why Cartels Use Sub-Groups** - Szulc details the rise of Fuerza Zacatecas Nueva Generación (FZNG), a violent CJNG sub-cell, and explains why cartels operate under different names.
- 5 (38:07) **Internal Rifts & The Millennial Cartel Takeover** - Szulc reveals that after El Mencho’s death, a high-ranking member wanted to escalate violence but was overruled, signaling shifting ideologies within CJNG.
- 6 (46:08) **New Revenue Streams: Beyond Drugs** - Szulc outlines how cartels have diversified into every possible black-market good, making the “end the drug demand” argument a fallacy.
- 7 (56:56) **The US Connection: American Citizens & Human Trafficking** - Szulc explains that the cartels’ success depends on the US, from drug consumption to purchasing stolen crude oil and avocados.
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Show Notes
Katarina Szulc is a Canadian investigative journalist based in Mexico, known for her on-the-ground reporting on cartel violence, organized crime, political corruption, and security issues. After beginning her career in traditional newsrooms with outlets including CBC and CityNews Vancouver, she shifted toward independent field reporting to get closer to the stories unfolding on the ground. Through her work and Borderland: Dispatches, Szulc reports from some of Mexico’s most volatile regions, tracking cartel leadership, evolving criminal tactics, and the growing intersection between organized crime, technology, and modern warfare.
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