Swarmer CEO on Building the “Microsoft of Drones”

April 19, 2026

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In March 2025, Swarmer went public and saw its stock jump 500% on the first day. The company was founded in May 2023. By January 2024 it had its first customer contract, and by April 2024 its software was deployed in combat in Ukraine. Alex Fink, Swarmer’s CEO, describes the company’s mission simply: “We help drones fly autonomously and cooperate in large groups without pilots.” The core problem Ukraine faced was wanting to launch millions of drones without having millions of pilots. Swarmer’s solution lets a single operator control hundreds of drones at once.

The Operating System for Drones

Swarmer does not manufacture hardware. Fink is explicit about the analogy: “We’re a drone company like Microsoft is a PC company.” Microsoft’s premise in 1980 was to build an operating system that could run on any IBM-compatible PC. Swarmer wants to be the operating system that runs on any drone — aerial, marine, or terrestrial — provided the hardware has sufficient processing power and a usable radio. The company will not work with Chinese components, but otherwise, integration takes weeks, not months. Once a drone is Swarmer-enabled, it can participate in the same mission as hardware from other manufacturers. Fink expands the definition of “drone” to include anything unmanned with a processor and radio: a guidance kit on a bomb, a missile, a stationary launcher. “Anything that can b

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What you'll learn

1 (00:03) **Company Introduction & Origin Story** - Alex Fink, CEO of Swarmer, joins to discuss the drone software company that saw its stock jump 500% on IPO day after being founded in 2023.
2 (03:03) **Technology & Hardware Agnosticism** - Fink explains how Swarmer's software works with any sufficiently capable drone hardware, positioning it as the "Microsoft of drones."
3 (06:31) **Autonomous Decision-Making & Ethics** - Fink addresses concerns about AI making lethal decisions, drawing a clear line between target selection and mission execution.
4 (08:49) **Learning from Active Conflict** - The company benefits from being founded in a war zone where tactics change every two to three months.
5 (11:46) **The Economics of Drone Warfare** - Fink breaks down the asymmetric cost dynamics that make drone swarms so disruptive.
6 (14:14) **Defense Against Swarms** - The only effective defense against a drone swarm is another swarm.
7 (16:15) **Business Model & Revenue Reality** - Fink addresses the $309k revenue and $8.5M loss, explaining the pivot that caused the numbers.

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Show Notes

Swarmer ($SWMR) just had a successful IPO, skyrocketing 520% in its first day of trading. But its bigger ambition is to become the “Microsoft of drones.” Zaid sits down with U.S. CEO Alex Fink to break down the business behind drone warfare software, and how the company has put its tech to the test since first deploying it in Ukraine. They unpack the economics of the drone warfare stack, Swarmer’s latest financials, and why software is emerging as the key battleground. Plus, how much of this growth depends on active conflicts and what investors should be watching next.