AOC Is Breaking With The Democratic Socialists — Here’s Why

What you'll learn

• 1 (00:00) **Opening & Guest Introduction** - Katy Kay introduces the episode and guest Ed Elson, co-host of the Prof G Markets podcast, to discuss the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and the economy.
• 2 (09:17) **The DSA's Radical Platform vs. Political Reality** - Ed and Katy run through the DSA's national program and discuss why candidates are distancing themselves from its most extreme proposals.
• 3 (12:46) **The Pragmatic Socialism of Mayor Zoran Mamdani** - Ed argues that NYC Mayor Zoran Mamdani, a DSA member, has governed more pragmatically than his socialist label suggests.
• 4 (15:19) **Medicare for All: Coherent Argument or Pie in the Sky?** - The conversation shifts to Abdul El-Sayed's push for single-payer healthcare and the feasibility of such major policy changes.
• 5 (18:31) **The Need for Boldness vs. The Danger of Extremism** - Ed and Katy discuss the political tightrope progressive candidates must walk to inspire change without being labeled as communists.
• 6 (19:59) **Corporatism: The Unifying Grievance of Left and Right** - Katy highlights El-Sayed's distinction between capitalism and "corporatism," a critique that resonates across the political spectrum.
• 7 (23:28) **The Risk of Guilt by Association** - The hosts discuss how DSA candidates are vulnerable to attacks based on their association with extremist figures like streamer Hassan Piker.

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