Raging Moderates: Trump Threatens to WIPE OUT Iran and Triggers 25th Amendment Calls (preview)

April 8, 2026

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“A whole civilization will die tonight.” That was President Trump’s social media post on Easter Sunday, setting an 8 p.m. deadline for Iran to open the Strait of Hormuz or face military annihilation. On this preview episode of Raging Moderates, host Jessica Tarlov and guest Katie Fang (host of The Katie Fang Show) try to make sense of the threat, the administration’s internal dynamics, and the broader pattern of extreme rhetoric that has become the new normal. The conversation is less about predicting what happens at 8 p.m. and more about what it means that the president of the United States is openly discussing the elimination of a country of 90 million people while the adults supposedly in the room offer flattery instead of restraint.

The 8 p.m. Deadline and the “Taco Tuesday” Dynamic

The episode’s central development is President Trump’s threat to “wipe out” Iran’s civilization if Tehran does not open the Strait of Hormuz by 8 p.m. that evening. In a social media post, Trump said “a whole civilization will die tonight” while holding out “faint hope” for something “revolutionarily wonderful” to prevent strikes. He also threatened to decimate Iran’s bridges and shut down its power grid — moves that could constitute war crimes under international law. Iran, for its part, vowed “crushing and extensive retaliation” if civilian infrastructure is hit.

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What you'll learn

1 (00:01) **Episode Preview & Host Introduction** - A brief preview of the episode's content is given, followed by the host Jessica Tarlov introducing guest Katie Fang.
2 (02:36) **Trump's Iran Ultimatum and "Taco Tuesday"** - President Trump warns of wiping out a civilization if Iran doesn't open the Strait of Hormuz by an 8 PM deadline, with threats to hit civilian infrastructure.
3 (04:07) **Lack of "Adults" in the Administration** - The hosts discuss the absence of moderating voices around Trump, particularly focusing on Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth.
4 (05:45) **The Scale of the Threat and Iran's Response** - The hosts discuss the gravity of threatening a nation of 90 million people and Iran's apparent dismissal of the threats as a "meme game."
5 (09:12) **Living on the Extremes** - The conversation concludes with the hosts reflecting on the extreme nature of the current political moment and the pressure on military leaders to conform.
6 (10:12) **Episode Wrap-Up and Subscription Reminder** - Jessica Tarlov reminds listeners to subscribe to the Raging Moderates Substack for ad-free episodes and the new newsletter, and to vote for the show in the Webby Awards.

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Guests on this episode

Jessica Tarlov Katie Fang

Show Notes

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Jessica Tarlov sits down with attorney and MeidasTouch host Katie Phang to break down Trump’s latest escalation with Iran — his 8:00 P.M. deadline, threats to strike civilian infrastructure, and the very real question of whether this is brinkmanship... or something much worse. They talk through what happens next, whether there’s any credible off-ramp, and how seriously to take Iran’s reported 10-point peace proposal.

Plus, Trump goes even further on NATO, Vice President JD Vance heads to Hungary to boost Viktor Orbán, and the MAGA reaction — from Tucker Carlson to Megyn Kelly — shows just how fractured the right is at this moment.

Meanwhile, calls for the 25th Amendment are getting louder — and they're not just coming from Democrats. And finally, Katie and Jessica break down historian Timothy Snyder's theory about Trump's latest military budget... and why it might be an attempt at a coup.

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