Why We Spend Years Chasing Things We Don't Really Want | Alain de Botton
June 26, 2026
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5 min readAlain de Botton, 56, trained as a psychotherapist only three years ago. He did it because, after decades of writing about philosophy, relationships, and emotional life, he wanted to sit on the other side of the divide. "I think I reached a stage where I thought, you know what? I'm big enough to be small," he tells Chip Conley on The Midlife Chrysalis. "I'm big enough to be small again. And I'm just gonna sit at the back of the class and take notes." That willingness to become a beginner again—to be humbled by life—is the thread running through the entire conversation.
The School of Life and the Case for Emotional Education
De Botton founded The School of Life in 2008, and he credits part of its success to "the audacity of our name." The premise is straightforward: standard education leaves out the most important subjects. "There are so many things that we are taught in standard education that seem not that important to the actual challenges of life," he says, "and at the same time so many gaps." The school exists to transfer emotional knowledge—"the kind of stuff that people have on their deathbeds and wish they could transfer"—earlier, so people can save time.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (02:57) **Who Alain de Botton Is Now** - A writer, philosopher, and newly trained psychotherapist focused on naming the psychological dynamics of fulfillment and unfulfillment.
- 2 (04:13) **Philosophy vs. Psychology: The Tragic Perspective** - De Botton contrasts the optimistic American view with the European tragic perspective, rooted in ancient Greek ideas of hubris.
- 3 (05:51) **The Origin of The School of Life** - Founded in 2008 to fill the gaps in standard education with emotional knowledge and practical wisdom.
- 4 (07:25) **Defining Wisdom vs. Knowledge** - De Botton and Conley explore the practical, experience-based nature of wisdom and why the word can be a tough sell.
- 5 (11:01) **Status Anxiety Explained** - The core concept: our deep need for respect and love is channeled through the pursuit of money and status.
- 6 (15:10) **Midlife as a Staging Post** - De Botton reframes midlife as a fruitful time for stock-taking and saying goodbye to old patterns.
- 7 (16:50) **How Life Has Gotten Better (and Harder)** - De Botton shares his personal humbling: career success exceeded expectations, but personal life remained stubbornly challenging.
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Show Notes
You followed the rules, built a successful career, and checked the boxes you thought would make you happy. So why does something still feel missing?
In this powerful conversation, bestselling author, philosopher, psychotherapist, and founder of The School of Life, Alain de Botton joins Chip Conley to explore what midlife teaches us about happiness, relationships, purpose, and becoming more fully ourselves.
In this episode, you'll learn:
- Why status, success, and achievement often fail to deliver lasting fulfillment
- How heartbreak, loneliness, and setbacks can become sources of wisdom
- Why friendship becomes more valuable as we get older
- The hidden reason so many relationships struggle and what better love requires
- Why self-knowledge is the foundation of a meaningful life
Filled with insight, honesty, and practical wisdom, this conversation offers a refreshing perspective on aging, growth, and what truly matters.
Watch now and discover why midlife may not be a crisis at all. It may be the beginning of your most authentic chapter.
Timestamps:
(02:00) Meet Alain de Botton
(03:25) Philosophy vs Psychotherapy
(05:59) The Origin of The School of Life
(07:42) Knowledge vs Wisdom
(11:33) Status Anxiety Explained
(14:48) Why Midlife Changes Us
(17:12) What Gets Better After 50
(19:10) Friendship and Heartbreak
(21:23) Modern Love and Relationships
(24:52) The Art of Travel
(27:14) Travel as Self-Discovery
(30:15) Places That Feed the Soul
(31:24) Childhood and Curiosity
(33:46) Solving Our Parents' Problems
(34:35) Becoming a Psychotherapist at 50
(37:33) A Wisdom Bumper Sticker
(40:40) Know Yourself
(41:16) Learning New Things Later in Life
(43:17) Final Thoughts
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