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"I Was An Unplanned Pregnancy" - Michael Knowles Sits Down With Nevaeh Souza

October 4, 2026

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Nevaeh Souza is the result of an unplanned pregnancy. Her mother was unmarried, fresh out of college, and had just lost a job offer after disclosing her situation to her employer. Twenty years later, Souza sat across from Michael Knowles and said: "I'm very grateful that my mother did choose life because 20 years later, here you are."

That personal fact is the hinge of the conversation. Knowles had just finished a campus event where a young woman defended abortion on the grounds that women sometimes conceive babies they do not mean to have. He used Souza hypothetically in that debate—asking whether anyone would look a 20-year-old in the eye and say it would be better if she had been murdered. Then Souza walked onto his stage.

The argument from personhood

The episode's central claim is that abortion is not primarily a policy disagreement but a logical consequence of denying personhood to the unborn. Souza puts it plainly: "Until we know them and we assume they now have a personhood, we don't assign any moral value to them or worth to them." She traces this to secularization. If there is no creator and no unique purpose, she argues, "everyone's kind of disposable."

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (03:09) **Guest Introduction: Nevaeh Souza** - Michael introduces Nevaeh Souza, author of *Tiny Human* (published by Kirk Cameron’s Brave Books), and recalls meeting her at a TPUSA event at the University of Idaho.
  • 2 (04:29) **Nevaeh’s Origin Story: An Unplanned Pregnancy** - Nevaeh reveals she is the result of an unplanned pregnancy, explaining her mother’s fear and uncertainty as an unmarried, fresh-out-of-college woman.
  • 3 (05:36) **Challenging the "Unwanted Child" Argument** - Michael recounts a debate with a pro-abortion woman at the University of Arkansas, using Nevaeh as a hypothetical example to question the logic of valuing lives based on plannedness.
  • 4 (06:39) **The Power of Choosing Life in Hard Circumstances** - Nevaeh shares a story from a Doctor Daft debate about a pro-life woman conceived in sexual assault, whose mother chose life despite the trauma.
  • 5 (07:59) **Gen Z and the Sexual Craziness** - Michael asks Nevaeh for insight on Gen Z’s perceived insanity, pointing to 30% identifying as LGBT, rising misogyny on the right, and defense of infanticide (e.g., the Lindsey Clancy case).
  • 6 (09:34) **The Lindsey Clancy Trial and Jury Dynamics** - Michael analyzes the Lindsey Clancy case, where a mother killed her children, noting that hundreds of women showed support outside the courtroom and the jury’s women were on her side.
  • 7 (11:42) **Abortion as the Root of All Problems** - Michael connects the pro-life issue to broader societal ills, referencing Mother Teresa’s UN speech that abortion is the greatest threat to peace because if a mother can kill her own child, nothing is off-limits.

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Show Notes

Michael Knowles sits down with Nevaeh Souza, who shares her powerful story of discovering that she was an unplanned pregnancy and how that revelation shaped the way she views life, family, and the abortion debate.


Nevaeh opens up about her personal journey, the value of every human life, and why being unplanned does not mean being unwanted.


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