Trump's Iran Decision Approaches, Kamala's Strange New Accent, and The Key Vance Factor, with Rich Lowry and Charles C.W. Cooke | Ep. 1300

April 21, 2026

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The dominant news story of this episode is the hours-long uncertainty over whether Iran will show up for nuclear negotiations in Islamabad, with Vice President J.D. Vance still in Washington and the White House scrambling. But the conversation also covers new polling on the 2028 field, Kamala Harris's latest public appearance, and the upcoming White House Correspondents' Dinner — all filtered through the panel's growing frustration with how President Trump has handled the Iran war.

The Iran Talks: A Game of Chicken Nobody Understands

As of airtime, no one — not the White House, not the press, not even Trump himself — knew whether the Iranians would travel to Islamabad for talks before the ceasefire expired at 7:50 p.m. Eastern. The AP reported the Iranians were expected to travel, but Pakistan's information minister said they had not confirmed. CNN reported that Vance was still in D.C., and that Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner, originally scheduled to fly from Miami, had instead redirected to Washington to meet with Trump. The panel treated this uncertainty as characteristic of Trump's entire approach to the war.

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What you'll learn

1 (01:09) **Episode Opening & Iran Negotiations Status** - Megyn Kelly introduces the show with top news: Kamala Harris's new accent and the uncertainty over Iran talks ahead of the ceasefire deadline.
2 (07:55) **Debating Trump's Iran Strategy and War Toll** - Rich Lowry and Charles C.W. Cooke join to discuss the unpredictable situation and the political costs of the war.
3 (19:49) **The Strait of Hormuz and the "Game of Chicken"** - The conversation turns to Iran's newfound leverage over the Strait of Hormuz and how it changes the strategic calculus.
4 (23:23) **The Wall Street Journal Piece and Trump's Real Estate Mindset** - Kelly and Cooke analyze a WSJ article revealing Trump's erratic behavior and fears during the war.
5 (28:42) **The Failure to Build a Case for War** - The panel discusses Trump's refusal to sell the war to the American public and its consequences.
6 (36:23) **Polling Disaster and the "Regime Change" Lie** - The discussion shifts to the abysmal public opinion numbers on the war and Trump's shifting justifications.
7 (43:36) **Trump's Vietnam and "45 Minute" Venezuela Boasts** - Kelly plays a clip of Trump comparing his war's length favorably to past conflicts and claiming he would have won Vietnam quickly.

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Show Notes

Megyn Kelly is joined by Rich Lowry and Charles Cooke of National Review to discuss Trump’s chaos strategy on display as Iran ceasefire reaches an end, the possibility that bombing may start again, VP JD Vance not actually leaving America to go to the negotiations, Trump’s rhetoric and action in Iran, what America’s best outcome possible would be at this point, the key factor that will show whether VP JD Vance will be the 2028 nominee and president, what the polls say on the GOP side now, Kamala Harris unveiling a strange new accent in front of a black leadership summit, her latest ridiculous word salad, how smug journalists plan to boycott President Trump’s appearance at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner, Jake Tapper's performative anti-Trump pocket square on Colbert, and more.

Cooke- https://twitter.com/charlescwcooke

Lowry- https://www.nationalreview.com

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