A Foreign Policy Reset: Marco Rubio and Tulsi Gabbard on the Trump Administration's Vision

In this double-feature episode of The Megyn Kelly Show, Kelly revisits two extended conversations with key members of the Trump administration: Secretary of State Marco Rubio and former Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard. Both interviews, recorded early in the administration, lay out a coherent foreign policy and intelligence reform agenda that departs sharply from the previous administration's approach. The through-line is a return to what Rubio calls "national interest" foreign policy—pragmatic, transactional, and unapologetically focused on American advantage—paired with Gabbard's push to depoliticize the intelligence community and root out what she describes as a culture of weaponization and waste.

The Rubio Doctrine: National Interest Over Global Governance

Rubio's core argument is that American foreign policy lost its way after the Cold War when the United States, as the sole superpower, began acting as "the global government" rather than a nation-state pursuing its own interests. He describes the current moment as a return to a multipolar world where China, Russia, and rogue states like Iran and North Korea are all acting in their own national interest—and the U.S. must do the same.